Wonderful! - Wonderful! 427: Delightful Brain Garbage

Episode Date: August 12, 2026

Rachel's favorite virgin (maybe) poet! Griffin's favorite sport that some animals can't play! Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoya Native Women Lead: https://www.nativewomenlead.org/ Help support this show and unlock bonus content! Become a member at https://maximumfun.org/joinwonderful

Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. Welcome to Wonderful. It's a podcast where we talk about things we like. That's good that we're into. That is what it is. This time, it is what it is.

We've been experimenting with the format lately, I'll say, as we get our sea legs back under us. We had so many responses to the notes episode, my love. Oh, really? We had so many people sitting in their own absolute brain. to absolute incomprehensible, delightful, brain garbage. And I appreciate it. So I sympathize and empathize with it so much.

And it meant so much to me that people would be so vulnerable to send in their absolute brain ducky. For those of you that maybe don't remember last week's episode or are listening to these out of order for some reason, Griffin and I shared notes we had made to ourselves in our phone. Yeah. just over the years, and then Griffin at the end put a call out for people to do the same thing. I did not expect so. I didn't expect this to be such a universal thing. But Wonderful Podcasts at

gmail.com. That's where you can send in your your own small ones, which we usually do at the end of the show. But not a joke. Dozens, if not hundreds of people just sending in screen caps of their thing. And it's just like lists that's just like, bazoubles. I scrummed my ding-dang. Like, whoa, holy shit, guys. Like, we're all just, our brains are all producing straight refuse all the time. And we all feel compelled to catalog that. And I've never felt closer to our listeners or really the rest of humankind. Yeah.

I really appreciate it. Thank you all, everybody, for sending those in. Before, when you were like a young person, you would write those all down in somebody's yearbook. Sure. at the end of the year to kind of memorialize your inside jokes. You would write down like Jeff Foxworthy TED Talk, lo, get it, have a great summer, Lailas, check you next year. Stay cool, stay fresh.

I never had a yearbook quote written down in my own yearbooks that I felt like was particularly personal to me. I got a lot of like I signed your crack, a lot of that. This to me. shows a lot about you. This was healing. To share that right now? No, to get all these notes in. That was not, that was damaging to share what I share.

But to get all of these, just to get all of this, just absolute. And I mean this in both the kind of like musical but also toilet way, just scat that people were just throwing in our inboxes. I really appreciated it. I really loved it. Do you have any small wonders? Small sun started swimming, sort of. Holy shit, man. It's so weird to have one of our boys just, like, do something kind of challenging without much pushing from, well, okay, we did swim classes for a long time.

He did swim classes for years, like literal years, but, you know, he was tiny. You know, he was, like three years old. So. He would like the Nirvana, baby. But this is consistent with Small Sun In that it doesn't matter how much effort we put in One day he will decide on his own that he's going to do something Yeah

Usually when we have stopped pushing entirely Yeah And that happened over the weekend He had just, we'd been putting like a life vest on him Even though we knew in swim class he hadn't been using one Right And then he was like, I'm going to try it without this and then he just went underwater, started kicking,

and now all of a sudden, that's all he wants to do. Yeah, also true of small sun. Now he only wants to swim. And he's mad that our house isn't submerged in water, that there isn't a pool immediate. And it's like, dude, we live in, we live in D.C. Big city. Big city.

The swamp is everywhere. Just go swim in that, you know what I'm saying? But he doesn't understand those kinds of jokes. But yeah, man, really, really delightful stuff. I think Big Sun's going to get there. I think Big Sun will take to the water too. Yeah, I mean, Big Sun, you know, he had a significant obstacle in front of him, which was that he could not get his ears wet for a very long time. For a decade.

Yeah, basically. Let's call it what it is. Yeah. Yeah. We're still recovering from that. I'm going to say we went to Huntington, West Virginia, the jewel of the Mountain State, the pride of Appalachia for my dad's birthday this past week. And it's like always amazing. It's always delightful to like stay with juice and watch all our kids play and all that stuff. I'm going to give a special shout out to the Peddler's Mall over on the west end of Huntington, West Virginia. It is a, an enormous antique. How would you, what, flea market? I guess you would call it a flea market, an antique flea market. A flea market, I think, usually implies that the seller is present. The seller is not present, but the store is divided up into like booths that people have like set up there's too. That's an antique mall. That's an antique mall. That's. That's an antique mall. Okay, I didn't know the terminology.

Just so great. Just so great to go poke your nose around through like someone's DVDs. Like very clearly like, and there's a lot of like crap in there as well. There's like some booths that are just like selling license plates of AI art. Or Christmas candy. Christmas candy, which is a little weird to me. Leftover Christmas candy. But it was interesting too.

One thing that's fun about an antique mall is that you get your own little booth space and you can set it up. up however you want. And some of them really get into it. So into it. I love that. That's my favorite part about it. They make their little booth space like you've walked into their home and like everything is on theme and like sorted by pleasing color. Yeah. It was a great run. I got a board game, an old Milton Bradley board game that's like arcade madness or something like that that has like a little card based arcade game that's like a core component of the thing. I'd never heard of the thing, but it was like 20 bucks. I was like, hell, yes, I'll buy this old-ass arcade-based board game I've never heard

it before. Also got a beautiful little Frisch's Big Boy that I'm showing him to you like you weren't there for, oh, I left the price tag on him. This thing was 25 bucks. Wow, Griff, you really blacked out on that one. I really blacked out in the booth, but, I mean, can you blame me? It's very cute. And this is in reference to the Bibbam theme this year, right?

It is, yeah. I'm throwing heaters for him specifically. Him and the Lord. You go first this week. I do. What would you like to talk about? Well, because this is kind of our first return to form in a while, I wanted to do something that made me feel comfortable and safe, and that is a trip to the poetry corner. Bow, bow, bough, bough.

I don't know if you, I don't know if that. Did you see the panic on my face? No, I missed it. It was, I, I went bough, bough, and then I had like a full-blown kernel panic where it was like, okay, so hold on. Are you doing the like step-by-step theme song? Oh, I immediately thought. Caramello, right? Isn't that what it was from? Or what was the commercial? It is in Ferris Bueller's Day. Oh, okay. That is my association with the Balbao. But it was also in a commercial, I think,

caramelo. Some candy bar. They used to play that song too. Okay. That was not the association I was making. I just like, freak the fuck out. I freaked out. That is not usually the tone we bring to the poetry corner. You're right. But I'll take it. It is, it can be considered appropriate for this poet. Oh, really? In particular, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Is it Matthew Broderick? No. Oh.

I guess I'll have to do some explaining on why I think that song is appropriate. Okay. The poet I am talking about is Annalisia Sotelo. Cool. Who is a poet that lives in Houston. And her first book was called Virgin, and it came out in 2018. Oh, wow. Hot off the, well, it's eight years ago.

Yeah. It's still pretty hot off the presses. She has an MFA from University of Houston and currently lives in Houston and works for writers in the schools. Cool. The reason I thought that song was appropriate is that it has kind of an intro that sounds oddly sexual to me. Oh, yeah. That one. It's hard to get that deep.

I can't do it. I mean, I wouldn't expect you to. If I was bigger, I could probably get like my vocal cords. If I was bigger, my vocal cords would be like bigger and so I could get deep. I think that's how it works. I never thought about that. It's possible, I guess. Yeah.

And yeah, so her book, Virgin, was kind of, I mean, it was definitely written from the perspective of somebody who is experiencing virginity late in age, I guess, is a way. And she never identifies whether this is a personal story for her or not, because part of her argument is like, that's nobody's business. Sure. But she also writes about her experience as like a Mexican-American woman and her experience of just kind of coming of age and how that, you know, changes her perspective on her relationship with her family and her sense of place. And so I wanted to read the opening poem from that book, Virgin.

Cool. So the poem is called Do You Speak Virgin? This wedding is some hell. A bouquet of cacti wilting in my hand while my closest friends sit on a bar bench, stir the sickles in their drinks, smile up at me. The moon points out my neckline like a chaperone. My veil is fried tongue and chicken wire hanging off to one side. I am a Mexican-American fascinator.

Let me cluck my way to an empty field where my husband stays silent and the star are the arachnid eyes of my mother-in-law, duplicitous ever present in the dark. I'm not afraid of sex. I'm afraid of his skeleton knocking against the headboard in the middle of the night. I'm afraid I am a blind goat with a ribbon in my hair with screws for eyes. I'm afraid wherever I walk, it's purgatory. I meet a great lake with rust-colored steam rising, someone somewhere has committed murder, hides in the bushes with an antique mirror. The virgins are here to prove a point. The virgins are here to tell you to fuck off.

The virgins are certain there's a circle of hell dedicated to that fear you'll never find anyone else. You know what it looks like. All the lovers cloaked in blood and salt and never satisfied. A priest's collar like a giant. tooth in the midnight sky. I want to know what's coming in the afterlife before I sign off on arguments in the kitchen and the sight of him fleeing to the car once he sees how far and wide, how dark and deep this frigid female mind can go.

Shit, man. Isn't that powerful? It's very powerful. That was a, that was a poem-ass poem, man. I hope that doesn't come off as reductive, but it was just like so. I don't know. Un settling, I think, a lot of the time, which is a very powerful brush to paint with when you're talking about something as historically kind of delicate as grown virginity, I guess. Yeah, I think you can really kind of go back and forth in the poem. The poem really takes you in and out of itself, if that makes any sense, where you're kind of, you're understanding these very tangible real, you know, things that she is talking about. And then she gets very kind of metaphorical.

The creature's collar is a giant tooth in the midnight sky or something like that. It was like, I love when poems do that. And I feel like you've brought quite a few where, yeah, you start to get a foothold on it. And it's like, oh, I understand you're writing about an anxiety that I am finding very, very relatable. And then you throw this fucking haymaker out of nowhere that kind of like I get stuck on for a little bit trying to decipher. She gave this interview in the adroit journal where she talks a little bit about that. She kind of, just to paraphrase, she says that poetry, we read what we don't understand. And then direct quote, we intuit the rhythms of language and use it before we really know how to. But that's just it. That's how it's meant to be used in a fragmented and growing state that feels like discovery. Love it.

Love that shit. That's so good. Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, I tend to kind of shy away from poetry that's too abstract because I feel like that can be alienating to a lot of people. But I really like this balance that she has of kind of rooting you and you're in the place with her. And then suddenly you're, you know, a thousand miles away. But she kind of returns you to this very, like, you know, easy to understand language.

And I really like that. this book about virginity and a hundred other things, but obviously the title is virgin, kind of came out of this exploration of kind of the different ways that virginity is discussed. And the movies that she cites in this article that she did in the adroit journal, she cites Can't Hardly Wait. Right. And she cites real women. have curves, which is not a movie that I'm familiar with. But she talks about how, like, virginity in

films is either this kind of thing that can be, like, a suggestion of purity and something that you're supposed to maintain, especially depending on what culture you're from. Sure. Or it can be this thing that you have to get rid of as soon as possible. Right. Yeah. You can't hardly wait. And so she talks about some things in this poem that I just read, Do You Speak Virgin? She says, the poem became a monologue in which every virgin could speak back and answer the question, what is this virginity thing for you? And through that monologue came potential answers. Virginity is the apprehension of love. Virginity is morbidity and the awareness that we have one life to make love right or to keep it a while. Holy shit.

Virginity is purgatorial, is never ending if one does not want to let it go. Virginity is its own territory that should be respected. It is private and public. It is not mine and it is not yours. Is whatever you define for yourself and however you choose to love and why and when and for how long and may it be ecstatic, may it be.

Bopo here in the poetry corner as you throw a fucking spare at me. That shit rules. That's so good. It's not a thing that, yes, whenever people do talk about this thing, it is one of two directions that you go. And I feel like very little attention is paid to, like, what a person who is a virgin

would think about that or how they would sort of receive those kinds of depiction. Yeah. I mean, we watch a lot of reality television, a lot of reality dating television. Sure. And the producers on those shows tend to just kind of half-hazardly pick somebody who hasn't had sex before and then make it a whole plot line. Right. And make it every conversation and make it a like deal breaker potentially for the match. Because people assume that it says a lot about you. Right. I mean, her and her Mexican-American heritage, she speaks a lot about, and that was the example of real

women have curves, of how, you know, there's like cultural and religious reasons and it can say more about you in that way or, you know, or is it just you're making a thoughtful choice or, you know, a hundred different things, but people assume like it means something. There's a reason. It's very deep to who you are. It's going to say a lot about you. So yeah, so I really, it just made me think more deeply about that experience, which I thought was a pretty big accomplishment. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah. So that's Annalisa Sotelo and the book is called Virgin. And I would recommend it. Hell yeah. Can I steal you away? Yes. Thanks. Speaking of reality dating television shows, my topic today is inspired by the new season of

Mary to Fursite that we've been watching. Have we talked about it? I think we must have talked about it at some point on here because we've been watching it for a couple weeks now. Yeah. I mean, I think we just introduced that we had just started and we weren't willing to kind of say anything about the season as a whole, but that we had noticed some differences. And I think that's why. I think that's why. Yeah, there's some differences in the production of it. It used to be a lifetime thing.

It used to be a lifetime thing and now it's a peacock thing. And we don't have to go on like a whole thing because my shit is not actually about married at first sight. It was just sort of inspired by it. In this latest episode, there were two dates that were kind of featured that I thought were interesting sort of comparisons. On one, a guy named, I think Adam, whose whole personality is Jet Ski's And pickleball, went on a double date with his wife and another couple to play pickleball. And he was so horrible to his wife, just like cutting her off, not letting her actually play, chewing her out. Really competitive and frustrated when she would make a mistake.

There was another date where they played horse. Yeah. A couple played horse. I'd like to talk about horse. It's better than pickleball in every conceivable way. And it's my favorite sort of iteration of basketball. Yeah, I was telling Griffin as we were watching it. Same for me.

I'm very intimidated by basketball, not because I, well, not just because I don't have a lot of experience and don't really understand the sport. Right. But as a small person, it is very difficult for me to be successful. But horse is something that is so approachable. Yes. And like, and two people can play. Can play it. Yeah.

You don't need a whole lot of stuff. You just need a ball. You need a hoop. And you need a friend or a lover. Or a lover. This is maybe known lore to like our longtime listeners, but we had a small basketball court installed in our backyard when I was in like sixth grade. And it was like it was not very big.

You couldn't play real basketball in it. You could play like sort of play Chicago 21 or like other kind of like half court variations. But you could play horse as much as you wanted. And that was my preferred way to play. whenever friends came over and we shot hoot. Do you, I know that you suggested that your dad was trying to instill some kind of sportiness in you all. Yeah. Was there like a decision point for this basketball room?

I don't remember being consulted because we had a grass backyard. Yeah. And then we had like a family room extension built onto our house, uh, partially because like our house was too small for the five people living in it where we only had one bathroom. And so like we need to directify that situation pretty early. originally. I don't remember being consulted on the installation of the basketball court, but like the family room cut our yard like in half. And so it would have been a very, very small play yard or whatever or a medium sized backyard basketball court. Yeah, because I know that you

had basketball ambitions for a while. Well, that's, yeah. And I didn't know if that was before the hoop or after the hoop. Well, okay, my basketball ambitions were inspired by Space Jam. And And, you know, like after the 96 Bulls season, just like fucking every kid, like, I never watched basketball, but I appreciated it as a cultural sort of object. Yeah. And I don't know. I really enjoy shooting a basketball. I'll give the creators of basketball this credit.

It's very, it's very pleasing to shoot a basketball, especially when it goes in the hoop. Yeah, the sound, too. The sound. The sound. The sound. The switch sound. Doesn't it? It seems like the.

net was designed specifically to make a pleasing sound when the ball goes through it. And I don't know if it was. I think it probably serves other purposes, but virtually every other aspect of basketball I could do without. The running, the dribbling, defending or being defended against. Having the ball stolen from you is a psychic wound sort of every time. Passing is okay, but not being passed two feels bad. And so if we could just just kind of really narrow this thing down to just shooting baskets. That's my ideal version of basketball. And that is what horse is.

And what I really liked about horse is like I didn't have a whole lot of stamina, but my hand-eye coordination's always been like pretty good. And so I could kind of hold my own at horse. And so when, you know, kids would play basketball at school, if they played horse, I could hang, like I could kind of hang. And there were not a lot of similar sorts of experience. experiences that I had athletically throughout my primary schooling sort of career. So other great stuff about horse, it's fully modular.

If you don't have a lot of time, you can play pig. If you do have a ton of time, you can play like Bronosaurus or whatever. Yeah, okay. I never thought about that. Yeah, I mean, a horse isn't like, so you're not riding horses while you play the game. It's not like so integral, like you can have it be sort of. whatever you you want it to be. Should you explain what horses?

What horses, the game? Oh, yeah, sure. So you shoot a basket and then someone has to shoot the same way that you did it and make it. And if they don't, they get an H. And then so on and so forth, adding accruing letters as penalties. This is what's largely colloquially known as a penalty game, which has sort of different iterations across different sort of, you know, other sports and leisure activities.

And if you spell the whole word, you lose. That's it. So you do like trick shots and you try to match those trick shots. That's horse. So I would watch basketball if it was just horse, I think. I do enjoy watching people do cool trick shots. Apparently, it was incorporated into the NBA All-Star weekend sort of festivities in 2009. Yeah, it makes sense.

But it was only included for two years before they came. canceled it in 2011. I don't know. I don't know why. I guess maybe like the dunk contest probably sucks all the oxygen out of the room and don't get me wrong. I love that shit as well. It's not really something I resonate with because I have never been a dunker. It might be hard to figure out who gets to compete. Right. In horse. Right. Like the dunk competition, okay, it's people that obviously are very good at dunking. But like, how do you decide who's the best horse You look at the NBA jam statistics on each player. And it's like, you know, Alan Iverson's three point stat is like 10.

So maybe he's the, but you can dunkin horse. It can be a dunk. Yeah, exactly. You got to copy that too. So you're looking for all rounders, I think. I don't know fucking anything about basketball, man. So there is a tradition of similar kind of penalty-based spelling games, going back to like ye old tavern times. that used similar kind of livestock terminology to designate who was worst at the game,

whether it was, you know, stuff like darts or pool or whatever, livestock names. This is my take on the etymology of this game because it doesn't exist. Like you can't find it. Like so many, like folk games that we've done here on this show, like there isn't like a, well, it was John Basketman, who in 1904 said, I'm shooting baskets. It's like a real horse today. And it all can't, like. The first game was played against a horse.

It was, yeah, it was played against a horse. There's no rules that say a horse can't play basketball. There should be a rule that's, someone's going to get hurt out there. So, yeah, I guess the suggestion is that horses can't play basketball. And so if you spell out horse, you're bad, you're bad at the game. That's about as specific in etymology. There are a lot of animals. There's a ton of animals that can't play basketball.

The ones that can, hamsters or malle. Mice, I've seen that happen. Little, yeah, little mice. One dog. One dog. I think that's it. I feel like there's got to be a movie where a, like a chimpanzee shoots a basket. Oh, yeah.

Animated characters. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, yeah, rabbits. But that's not, you know, that's not real. I don't know. The fascination with Lola Bunny suggests that there was something real about that film. There was something very real about Lola. And I'm glad to hear you accept and address that.

So like the origins of the game are also kind of difficult to tack down. There started to be kind of like written acknowledgments of the game of horse as early as the 1930s. But really it was just sort of like it came up alongside the sort of introduction of basketball as a national sort of sport as an informal kind of variant that you could play in your page. driveway. And it wasn't until the 1977, 1978 NBA season, CBS Sports was, were airing the games. This is kind of where it went nationwide.

What they did is during that season, they pre-taped games of horse, played between like the best players of the era. And then during like halftime stuff, they would show these. That's great. That's fucking great, right? I think I never, we watch every blues game.

Like we watch a lot of hockey during hockey season. We consume a lot of sports television entertainment, I would say, on a given week, depending on what time of year it is. I have never, like, loved the intermission stuff of like, okay, so now we're going to just sort of, you guys are going to talk about the stuff we all just watched. Or bring somebody into the booth that isn't particularly good on you. camera and interview them for an interminable like length of time and and they have nothing really interesting to say now show me like a little skills competition yeah don't just do all that shit

during one weekend where it's like let's see who's the fastest skater let's see who's the best shooter like put that in the breaks or show me the weird competition they're playing in the break you know how like when they're when the players are taking a break they will bring out people in the audience to do some kind of weird thing like I love that to watch that. I'd love to watch that. Get a sense of kind of the stadium and the culture. Yeah. This is, this brings me to my sort of main point here today. I think there's an opportunity for our nation's sports leaders to really streamline a lot of our national pastimes and boil them down to their sort of best components, really just focus in on what works. For football, I'm thinking

maybe just field goal kicking at long range or like long passing. It's. It's tough, football is tough to kind of like boil down to like a specific. Long passing is good. Long passing is pretty good, right? For hockey, let's get whole games that are just shootouts. That's cool to me. Yeah, that is cool. And maybe a fight every once in a while.

That it's a different sport, kind of. I guess it is a different sport. You're watching boxing at that point. You're just kind of watching boxing. For baseball, you might think I would want like a home run derby. Exactly, yeah. But it's actually, I don't really care. so much. Someone hits a long bomb and it's like I've seen they all kind of look the same like a big grand slam like that's cool. It all sort of looks the same to me. For me, the clips that like show up on my sushi of like outfielders doing insane dives. Yeah. And catching it and then fucking heating it all the way back to third base or it. That's the shit right there. Yeah. So like just a long ball fielding competition, which which I think we could accomplish.

My main issue with baseball is the pitching. All that stuff that happens at the mound, like it takes forever. So if we just did T-ball, basically, and then it's just like you slam it and it'll be a home run or not. And then the outfielders are going to have to do some crazy shit to get it. That's cool. That is something I watch. Also, three innings, not nine. Get me in, get me out.

I don't need all that much, basically. So you would have a second inning stretch. I would have a, well, before the third inning, you would do a little stretch. You've been there for four. 40 minutes. You have not finished your first beer. Yeah. Your nachos are still, there's a healthy amount of those left. Anyway, horse is great.

And I don't play basketball really ever. Sometimes we go to a playground that has like a basketball hoop and I will shoot and I'm fucking bad. I'm like really, really bad. It's been a long time. It's been so long. And also our basketball hoop sunk into the ground a good like foot and a half, I think, when it was installed improperly. So I'm used to a lower basketball.

experience. Yeah. But I still love shooting baskets, man. Yeah, I think I remember having a like a two-month period where I wanted my parents to buy a basketball hoop. And it was only because it was a sport that without practice, you couldn't really get better at. And to practice, if you didn't have a hoop at home, you would have to go to a court where other people were.

Yes. Which I didn't want to do. No. And so it was like one of those things. It's like people that have a pool table. It's like, well, if I'm ever going to play this with other people, I need to practice, and I would like to do so in the privacy of my own home. It's the, it's, you got to get the feel. You got to get the feel for it.

I love, there's clips of, I think it's Steph Curry, like, dribbling a basketball, like, pregame and stopping because he, like, drops it. And then he, like, dribbles on one spot of the court and, like, calls people over. And they look at the board and realize, like, one of the floor boards is, like, improperly kind of, like, set. And so it's not bouncing the basketball the right way. Or there's one where he's, like, shooting baskets and kept missing. and he called them over and they measured the distance and it was like a half inch off. I'd love to be that keyed in to anything.

Anyway, that's horse. Do you want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes. Here's one of the many notes that was sent in. Context-free, Seth sent this one in. Carbonara-flavored meat pie. I stumble upon this note from time to time and dream of bringing this flaky eggy dish to life. That would be really good.

Yeah, but how do you accomplish it? I don't know how one captures Carbonara flavor in a meat pie setting. I mean, you'd make the sauce and then you would thicken it. You're losing me a little bit. But meat pie is already like a pretty heavy sort of situation. This is probably why Seth has struggled to bring this to live. Well, yeah, pieces of chicken. Okay.

And then sauce. The bacon and the eggy. Yeah, and the sauce. In a pie. Okay, maybe it's not that hard. Yeah, you crushed it. So here we go, Seth. Service journalism we're providing here.

Elise says, My Small Wonder is the spray nozzle on a kitchen sink. It's so helpful for washing awkwardly big pans, cleaning the trash can, rinsing canned beans in a colander, sending food scraps down the drain. The list goes on. I freaking love it.

Yeah. I wish ours was 10 times more powerful. It's all right. But I would love one that it's so good when you're like, ew, I'm going to have to touch this peanut buttery butter knife. But then you get the spray going and it's strong enough to, Do it without touching it.

Water pressure is something I have really valued because I don't think we've had particularly good water pressure anywhere we've lived. No, not at all. And I don't know what the secret is. It's us. It's something we did. We seem like a softer people. Yeah. And as such, the utilities company does not give us as much water because they know that we'll put up with us.

We won't do it right. Yeah, we'll get hurt too. We'll hurt ourselves with strong water. What if it's just making a phone call and saying, hey, I don't have great pressure? Yeah. And they're like, all right, hold on, let me divert some pipes. Okay, how's that? Awesome.

Yeah, they do it on the phone with you? That's cool. No, I like that. Thank you so much for listening to our show. Thanks to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song, money won't pay. You find a link to that in the episode description. And thanks to Maximum Fund for having us on the network. Go over to Maximumfund.

Or check out all the great stuff they got going on over there. We got merch up in the merch store, some new logo merch for Sawbones and Schmaners. It's got a Macroy Family Clubhouse pin, a bunch of other stuff over there at mackroymerge.com. Our book is out the final Taz graphic novel, The Adventure Zone Story and Song. You can go to theadventurezone comic.com and grab that. I'm super proud of that book. And the besties, if you listen to my gaming podcast, I do with Russ, Fresh Dick, and Chris Plant, and formerly Justin McRoy, we're all getting back together in October to do a show in New York City.

To squash the beef. To squash the longstanding beef. You can get tickets for that at bit.ly slash besties on Broadway. I just came up with an idea for your live show. Can I share it with you on air? Yeah. You do like the wizard style competition of playing video games in front of the audience. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. We could just do all of the shit from the wizard like a whole wizard recap. Just a whole wizard live stage experience. There's something there. I bet you win, baby. I bet you win. You're an incredible gamer. Yeah. But it's not, the others are kind of scrubs.

Oh, so it would be a blowout. It would be a blowout. It wouldn't be uncomfortable. Yeah, it would be like, you know, because I'd be up there with Mario. I'd be at the finish line and shit. And they would still be like getting fucking aced by a hammer bro or whatever. Yeah. Also, Russ calls him Mario and it makes me so upset every time I hear it. So I don't want to invite that energy on stage. Well, I never said you had to play Mario. Oh, I just assumed.

I mean, Mario 3 is what they play in the wizard at the end. Oh, okay. I see. I see. But anyway, I'll call Jenny Lewis. Please. Riloh, Kylie, frontwoman, and see if she's available. Just to cheer you on.

Just to cheer me on, participate and call the Nintendo Power Helpline whenever I need tips. Good. It's going to be a kick-ass show, just as this episode was. Thank you so much for listening. And we'll join us again next week for a new episode, Wonderful. Have a good, have a good evening. Ooh. And if I don't see you, good afternoon, good morning, and good night.

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