Wonderful! - Wonderful! 428: Every Week There Was a Jimothy

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McRoy. And this is Wonderful. Welcome to Wonderful. It's a podcast where we talk about things we like that's good that we are into. You've joined us for another episode of Wonderful. And this one is going to be normal. No, probably not.

I don't know what a normal episode would be, actually. I'll tell you what I miss. The days were like every week there was a Jimpathy or like a, you know what I mean? Like it felt like it used to be that like every week there was a Jim at the or a pizza rat or a Chewbacca mom or a it's really just like two nouns. You smooosh them together and it's like we love that. And then we can use that for this podcast specifically to be like, you got tired about this one? That was Jay Leno. Nobody knows who Jay Leno is anymore.

That's probably true. That's probably true, right? More people probably know him for his automotive collection. collection than his television career. Gosh, that reminds me. When I was a kid, I had a calendar that was like famous cat enthusiasts. And every week it was a new celebrity with their cat or talking about cats. Or maybe it was just a picture of the cat. I don't know. Either way, Jay Leno was one of the months. That's incredible, babe. I remember that. You had a cat. I want to really explore that because I feel like

People listening to this show, like, we're pretty open and vulnerable here. And I feel like people know a lot about us. I don't know that I've ever done anything as vulnerable as what you just did in saying that you had a calendar as a child depicting not cats, but celebrity cat enthusiasts? Just celebrities with their cats. Or maybe just the cat. No, I think it was the celebrity with their cat. So you had one of Jay.

Do you remember what month he was? No, I don't know. But did he have a shirt on? Yes. As I recall, he was wearing denim, but maybe I've just created that image in my head. He strikes me as a denim wearing guy. I mean, he does wear a lot of denim. He does wear a lot of denim.

Yeah, I mean, no, I don't feel like that was particularly vulnerable. I feel like that says more about my parents than it does about me because I was not making the calendar decisions at that age, you know? No, but you were changing in response to the stimuli of your environment. Do you know what I mean? We are big cat people. And I would think I still am a big cat person. Travis had a Zena Warrior Princess calendar.

Of course. And one April Fool's Day, I took it out of his room and I hung it up where like our family calendar goes. Uh-huh. Which I think is a pretty, I was like maybe eight or nine, a pretty cerebral prank. That does sound exactly. Pretty funny because it's like not mean necessarily as much as it is kind of like, I don't know, taking this one sort of facet of Travis's interests and making it core to the sort of family. And you recognizing there was something funny about Travis having that calendar and displaying it publicly in your house.

Preciant. Yeah. We're all about this. Yeah. Anyway, here are wonderful. We talk about good stuff. Do you have any small wonders? I assume so because you've got quite a docket of small wonders. Yeah. So I mean, my segment this week is going to be a lot of small wonders. So I'm just going to say one of my small wonders, which is, and I've been sending you these, individuals dressed as Sesame Street characters for like some kind of live cruise, possibly performance. Yeah. And they're just bringing their best dance moves. Sure. Like in the world.

Yeah. No, I mean, the clip that you sent me was of some Sesame Street. I'm talking about Cookie Monster. I believe Elmo was in there and they were dancing to reggaeton music. There was Bert and Ernie too. Bert and Ernie.

The account I got this from and I don't know anything about this person because they don't typically post this content but it's Ajax 523. And it's just people who are not loyal to the character as much as they are loyal to the art form of dance.

I love it. I love it so much. I love people, first of all, because, you know, I came from that life. Yeah, that's true. The mascot life. Calabunga for WTCR. I love when the humanity inside the costume shines through,

not in like a gross or vulgar way, but in a, I showed you dabbing Squidward, which is Squidward on a parade float at some Nickelodeon Park. With that face, with that just like vacant face. Yeah, and people just yell Squidward, do the dab, and he just sort of mad docks him for a second, and then hits them with like a really, really quick one. Like, that's really good to me.

With the cookie monster, there was a lot of belly work, which I really enjoyed, too. Like this awareness that, like, this is an additional component that can be incorporated into my dance. Yeah. There was the video of a family eating at Disney World, and I think either Chip or Dale came up to them. And they were talking to them about sort of, sort of in a biblical, gospel-y sort of style way. Yeah. And at one point the family is like, God is good. And Dale kind of like gestures out with his hands like all the time.

And the family just like loses their fucking mind laughing as he's like pounding on the tape. Like I don't know. I live for that shit. Yeah. That brings me endless amounts of joy. And I've talked about mass bats before. There's just something about a person being totally obscured by a kind of ridiculous costume. Yeah.

And like really feeling themselves. It's a fine line, right? Because when I see that happen at like a Times Square situation, it's not. It doesn't bring me as much joy. But when it's innocuous enough, Squidward dabbing, like that's not going to tarnish the Nickelodeon, the SpongeBob brand at all. It's just good.

It's just very good. I'm going to say I cleaned my office. I cleaned the hell out of it last week. And it feels so good. I've been putting it off for a long time. You did some redecorating. I did some redecorating. I took all the retro games out of my closet,

put them right here on the middle shelf of my desk. So I could make room for all of my advanced copies of the books that I've written, which to a certain point, we're just, like, kind of scattered around my room, like I was some sort of mad sorcerer. You got to set up, like, a lemonade stand, but it's like you with your books. You know what I thought about doing is just taking them in a big bag, going around the neighborhood paperboy style, and any time I see one of those tiny libraries, I just chuck it in there.

Yeah, not a bad idea. It could be good. It's not the worst idea in the world. We had a lot of those in our neighborhood. It gave me an opportunity. It was also spurned on, but having to find a place to put baradour. And I need to find a different place to put baradour. because right now the eye of saron is like constantly right above my head,

making it look like I'm about to do something evil. Yeah. Like he's going to make me do some sort of bad thing, like resurrect the or whatever. It's so tricky to display your Lego creations. Sure. Because there's a suggestion like it's a trophy. Like you want everyone to admire, like look what I did. When really it's just like it took a long time and it looks cool.

It just looks, I think it just kind of looks cool. Yeah. It's not like you're saying like gaze upon my incredible amount of effort. No. Baradur is an interesting edge case because a lot of the interesting stuff is happening inside the tower, I think. And it's not really easy. Do you think that would look weird? No. No.

Because that would look kind of weird, I think. Huh. You know what I worked hard on the lava. And you don't really get to see the lava so good if you turn it around. Anyone will tell you when you build a Lego set and it's got lava in it is always the hardest part. because it's just a bunch of different red and yellow and orange little pieces and you have to snip, snap them all in a very specific way. Anyway, it's been a real struggle lately.

Legos. Do you want to know what I'd like to talk about this week? Yes. I was very excited when I thought of this one because it's one that I feel like really is just sort of a straight over the plate good shit that belongs here on Wonderful, and it is drinking fountains. Oh. Bubblers.

as some people call them, drinking fountains. Yeah, I like specifically the ones where you can fill your water bottle. So that is a big deal that I'm going to get into here because the landscape has changed dramatically since the introduction of the water bottle refill station. That reminds me of the Parks and Rec where they have to invent a public service way of... They put their whole mouth over. Oh, God, if you don't, if you didn't watch Parks and Rec, there's an episode where they get into the fact that in Pawnee, people, there's a very local phenomenon where when people drink water

they put their mouth all the way over the faucet and they try to invent either a public service way of like getting the word out there. One of them was like a poster that said like if you push someone's head down onto the faucet when they're drinking it, you're a real drip. But one of them is just like a little yellow cage that they put around the thing

and Andy tries to drink out of it and then he just eventually like prize it off like some sort of chimpanzee. God, that's a funny show, man. drinking fountains, man, they are obviously an important sort of public resource that's been around for a long time. We love public access to one of humanity's most sort of basic needs. Working from home, as I do, my encounters with drinking fountains these days are quite limited, but I guarantee you if I ever use like a public restroom and I'm on the way out and there's a drinking fountain right outside the door, you know I'm going to get me a sip. Airports?

Airports, forget about it. Airports most of the time I am concerned about making sure I get onto the airplane with as full of Contigo as I possibly can. Because God, I've made that mistake. I've been hurry into a flight and I forget to refill my water bottle. Oh, and I have a dry, thirsty flight. Or you have to ask the flight attendant, can you give me like 32 ounces of water right now? Which they will, but they will not give you a nice face to look at. I think for people of like our generation and maybe like Gen Z,

early Gen Z, but like probably that's it. The drinking fountain carries a kind of like Pavlovian significance because when we were in school, you didn't have like a reusable water bottle. Like it just simply wasn't a thing. And so we've talked about this before. Have we? Yeah, my disbelief that like the generation before us just didn't ever drink water. Yeah.

And that we didn't go places with water on hand. Yeah, I don't really understand how we're. how we were surviving, except in school environments where I remember at my middle school, uh, lining up between periods and there would be a teacher doing a count to make sure that like every kid, I think it was like a count to five to make sure everyone got the hydration they needed between periods. Uh, and that instilled in me like, one, a tremendous amount of anxiety. Because like, what if I'm still thirsty after five seconds and I don't have time to get back in line. I got to get over to algebra or whatever. But it also gave me a point.

passion for like cold refreshing water because no water hit harder than like that cold school drinking fountain water especially if you got to it like between periods or during a period and there was no line damn dude i would camp out i would slurp all day and it was so refreshing because of the scarcity i guess of it i think subconsciously this is what brought us to washington dc because DC has the most drinking fountains per capita of any city on Earth, roughly 25 fountains per 100,000 people, which doesn't sound like a lot, but it's considerably more than the mean. Yeah, is there like a specific? So I couldn't find like an exact like standard ratio or like an exact number of bublers like in the U.S. for example. But there is obviously a shit ton of them because they are required at certain public places.

like parks and schools and libraries all are required to have them. And then like businesses of a certain size that are expecting a certain number of occupants are required to have them. The International Building Code requires one fountain for every 100 occupants expected in like a public place. But almost always drinking fountains come in pairs. One is higher and one is lower as sort of outlined by ADA requirements. Yeah.

There's a lot of ADA requirements about water fountains, specifically like the lower one in terms of how far out it comes from the wall, and you have to be able to use it with one hand, like, you know, pushing on something with less than five pounds of force. Like there's a very, very specific kind of requirements. So because of that, that's why you get the kind of offset dual water fountains that you see in all kinds of public places. But to your point, in recent years,

more places have been using water bottle refill stations, which I believe still, according to the International Building Code, can substitute 50% of like a large public places number of water fountains. So you can put those in and have fewer water fountains if you have the water refill stations in there. At this point, like, I don't know, I almost always just use the water bottle refill station, especially because like we always have a water bottle when we're traveling with our kids, like always 100% of the time and it does suck to not have water when you're out and about

in public. But I don't know. that drinking fountain water is also so cold. And the way it arcs up into my mouth is just such a delight every time. You're talking about the good water fountains. So yeah, there's obviously lots of different kinds of water fountains. There's a lot that are just bad. There's a lot of bad water fountains out.

Either they don't work at all, the water barely comes out. A lot of outdoor water fountains, specifically like ones that you would find at a park. I remember Ritter Park, the park I grew up next to, had around the kind of like, you know, mile and a half long track kind of going around the core of the park. There were probably like half a dozen water fountain set up around there and none of them worked like ever. And one did work up by the tennis courts and they were hot.

It was hot. Hot water would come out and that's like no fun at all. So like, yes, the ones that are outdoors are less functional. But ancient drinking fountains are. extremely cool. There's a lot of like pictures of old drinking fountains, you know, from like the 20th century, you get like big cast iron delios, but then there's like, you know, obviously the ancient Romans had their whole system of like aqueducts feeding, you know, clean water into public drinking basins. That eventually evolved in Rome. In the late 1800s, they introduced cast iron drinking

fountains called nizoni, which I'm probably mispronouncing because it is an Italian word, and I don't know that language at all. But it means nose. And I guess that's for like the shape of them. They're kind of large and bulbous and then park water out. And then you get the good seasoning, you know, because it's cast iron. You do get the good seasoning on that water. So you get like the flavor of everyone else's mouth. Yeah. Well, no, this just kind of like squirted water out in a sort of sideways arc. And you kind of like get out in there. There's over nearly 3,000 of those are still around today, which is crazy. In Nepal, in the sixth century, a waterway system feeding like publicly accessible drinking fountains called, I'm not going to do a good job with this

either. Duhunjdara were erected, many of which are still in use today. These are, you know, millennium and a half year old drinking fountains that are still rock and roll in. I did not realize that like throughout Europe and America, throughout sort of the West, drinking fountains became more prevalent and more common in public places around the turn of the 20th century, and it was driven in large part by the temperance movement. So, like, there were the, there's the women's Christian temperance movement, the leaders of which had, like, a gathering where they went out, and they encouraged people to erect drinking fountains opposite, like, pubs and saloons to provide, like, free, clean hydration to folks to, like, tempt them away from getting said hydration from booze.

So the idea was like there wasn't water around, so they were just drinking whiskey. The idea is that, yeah, like truly genuinely, yes, because it was sterile. Like, you could pretty much guarantee that if it's, you know, 40-proof booze. It seems like like an excuse somebody would give their partner of just like, man, I know. I wasn't planning on drinking too much. No, I mean, just thirsty. Clean drinking water access to, even at this period around the turn of the 20th century, like was not guaranteed in a lot of places. And so these were installed almost to say like, hey, they were built in, you know,

churches, like the front lawn of churches. They would, you know, install fountains there just to get people coming by and hydrating. So like, you know, temperance, not a great thing, kind of like across the board, I think, looking at the big picture of temperance, but cool that there's a lot more water fountains out there. I think a lot of people were probably pretty stoked about that. So the original kind of popularized drinking fountain design, the bubbler design, originally the faucet projected water straight up, a couple inches. And it was called a bubler because it looked like a bubble like coming straight upwards. I can picture that. But that meant that your dirty mouth would drink the water and then it would just splash right back down right onto the nozzle.

And so there was a guy named Halsey Taylor, which is still a brand of drinking fountains that if you're out and about and you see a drinking fountain, check the name because it might be a Halsey Taylor. His dad died of dysentery due to contaminated water. And so he is credited as the inventor of the double buggler, which is the design we all know now. You know how when you drink from a water fountain, most water fountains, it has two little holes on the faucet and they both project arcs of water out that kind of meat in the middle. and merge and go down. Have you not noticed? I don't think I've noticed that. Well, hey, look, next time for the double-bubbler

because it was a Halsey-Taylor original and it not only kind of like kept the shape of the arc a lot cleaner and it enabled them to project the water out further without it like shooting all the way across the room, it like doubled the amount of water that you were drinking when you went down to drink water. It's like a brilliant design. And it keeps the water from splashing right back down onto the faucet as well.

Like just to kick ass, kind of like geometric kind of like a solution to a problem that led to the death of his father. I think that's rad. I think that's very cool. So that's the double buggler. I don't know, man. Just like I think drinking fountains being in places where people need them is across the board, good stuff.

And I appreciate the convenience of a refillable bottle. I always have one basically on hand. But nothing hits quite as hard as that cold stream straight to the dome from the double buggler. I'm all about it. Yeah. Thank you, drinking fountains. Thank you. Keep it up out there.

Outdoor ones, it's not your fault. It's our fault. You know, it's not like the drinking fountains have decided outdoors not to work as good. No, and I mean, some hot water is better than no water at all. Of course, of course it is. I will concede that. The little ones for dogs, too, that's great. I don't know that I've ever seen one of those functioning at like a public park place.

It's a great idea. I love it. We just got to really reinvest in our infrastructure. for dogs. So Griffin McOrey for president. Griffin McQuarrie for president. Let's get dogs hydrated. I think dogs should vote.

I think dogs should be able to vote. And if they could, I think they would really not understand anything I'm saying because it's not dog language. Can I steal you away? Yes. All right. So I'm going to take you behind the curtain. Yeah.

And I'm saying you to my husband, you're Griffin, but also the listener. I got a good look behind the curtain yesterday when I came downstairs and you're like, I don't fucking know, man. I've talked about this before. When you are not in a headspace to feel particularly grateful, it is very difficult to come up with a topic for this show. Yeah. A lot of times what happens is I will come up with something that I know that I like and I can talk about why I like it. But then I will go to research it and it's either too big or not big enough to become a segment.

It's tough. And so I have some of those and I'm just going to couple them together this week. Oh, good. Some of these will sound familiar to you because we've been talking about them recently. One is stained glass. Yeah. Very complicated. Very complicated.

It's been around for centuries. You know, there's all these different types and different ways of putting it together and different facts. It was just too big a topic. Sure. And I don't have the expertise. But I have this vision right now of finding a large piece of stained glass that we can hang up in our kitchen window. Yeah. And so I've been just really kind of pouring through like listings and just trying to find something used.

And I just feel like the color, you know, the like experience of seeing sun coming through stained glass is so pleasing. And to have that in our kitchen every day, I think would really improve my life. I mean, yeah, I think it would be, I think let's get some reclaimed. let's get like a big one of the apostles and we'll turn it sideways. Well, yeah. We'll do it sort of letterbox style across our kitchen window. So we'll have Thomas and the gang just sort of laying on your eyes greeting us. I was thinking more like something floral or geometric.

Yeah. But yeah, a lot of the research I did talked a lot about cathedrals and how difficult it was to just have a plain sheet of glass in your house. Like it was relatively rare for a long time and all the kind of decorative aspects. It was too big. Too big. I would like to learn more. But I can't in a few hours before we record. You dabbled in glass, in glasswork.

I did take a glass belowing class, thanks to you. But that's a different thing. Yeah. You know? I guess it's not stained. Is it? No. I mean, you're probably getting color the same way.

But, you know, your mouth is more involved in the glass blowing than. in the stained glass. Sure, sure. I've always said that. I tell you what I love. A stained glass like overhead lampshade. Oh, forget about it. Like when you're at Pizza Hut. Like when you're at Pizza Hut. God. Somebody was selling one of those for a long time, but they were asking like, I don't know, $2,000 for it. For the Pizza Hut lampshed? I don't know that I would want that in my home all the time. For people who I guess are trying to recreate their own Pizza Hut. You just get rid of all. I would get rid of all of our cups and just get those reds. And just get those Red Lusite.

Yeah. This is the thing. There is like a way of getting like a piece of art or like a furniture item that you then have to build a whole room around. Right. That would be one of those things. Yeah. Okay.

Other thing we were talking about recently mechanical pencils. Shit, man. I thought this is interesting because we talked about it through the lens of like, weren't these kind of a joke? Like isn't it kind of silly how these were the biggest shit for a couple years and then no more? But as a kid, didn't it feel like you had? had stepped it up a notch in your education. Like all of a sudden, you're trusted with this little box of like little, like,

you know, graphite, but these little like cylindrical tubes and you're like putting them in your little pencil machine. Yeah. And then as Griffin and I talked about, you're pretending to inject it into your arm because that's what you did. Sure. Joke didn't play as good in my hometown, but that doesn't mean we didn't do it. When you're bored, you'll do basically anything with.

with the school supplies that you have on hand. Fair, yes. These have been around for a super long time, too. I, like, did research to figure out kind of, was this just a big fad in the 90s? Because I don't see a lot of them anymore. No, it's been around for hundreds of years. Yeah.

Just for whatever reason, it was incredibly popular. I tell you, it's the, one, having a mechanical pencil, but you run out of the lead sort of ammunition for it. Or you break it constantly. That's the other thing is you can do one click and now it's a pencil and then a second click and that fucking thing is going to snap the second you apply. Either the lead will entirely fall out or you will press you hard.

I'll tell you what I love. I wonder if I have one on hand. I don't. Down on our toolbox I do, those big like carpentry pencils. That's the only thing I fuck with these days pencil wise. They're unloosable. They're so big. They are like a little bit triangular so you can set them down and it won't just like roll all over

the place. I love it. Yeah. That's an adult pencil. Right. There are different types of pencil for different points in my life. I put away my childish things. Mm-hmm.

I don't need AI. Listeners can't see that. I don't need AI in everything. The movements. Including my pencils. Griffin is doing it. Give it to me carpenter style. Because you know who else did it, carpenter style?

The Lord. How is... And if it's good enough for him. You're always saying that. How are the... How are the pencils AI exactly? Mechanical. Oh, and mechanical is synonymous.

Okay. Computers. That's helpful to know. Machines. Even simple ones. I see a pulley and I'm like, it's a slippery freaking slope, I think. I see a wedge. That's somebody's job.

I see a wedge. I think someone could have been paid to make something go upwards slightly. A fulcrum? In this economy? I see a wedge. wheel and I think somebody could be carrying that car right now. Someone could be carrying that car. We could have a, we could have a big bronosaurus moving that wagon along. I'm going to, I'm going to go real simple here. Yes. I don't know how I would talk about it, but when you go to a buffet and they have soft serve ice cream, you can serve yourself. Sure. This is probably, I don't know how you feel about giving that power to the people. How I feel about it. Yes. Well, I'm one of the people now. I'm a civi, right? I'm not enlisted anymore in the, in the Froyo kind of, like,

world in the industry. And so this is the only opportunity I really get to practice my craft. It's delightful to have that kind of agency in your soft serve experience. And then trying to get the swirl right, like you've seen so many people do before. Okay. Yeah, I mean, the swirl is tough. The swirl's tough because there's not a clean out point for the swirl. Can I give you a technique? And this is, I guess, for everyone also. Instead of trying to do the swirl, what you can do is just push the cone right up into the thing and gush it

straight on, straight on top from the center and you take it down and then you kind of like go up and down a little bit and what it does is it builds like little peaks and you can make that shit be so tall because it won't go, it won't lean either way. You're just going up and down. I need to have you do this for me.

I can't believe I haven't taken advantage of the skill that you have. Yeah, I mean it doesn't look as pretty and it does not hold toppings fucking at all. So if that's important to you, forms a beautiful kind of Christmas tree shape of a thing. But yeah, that that kind of like taper style is is much easier on days where I was hung over at the TCBY. You know, I still had to hit my seven ounces for the small, nine for the medium, 11 for the large. We couldn't go over because

that's money lost. But I would do the taper technique if I was, you know, not if I was playing hurt. I envision this time for you as like this like teenage dreamy fantasy where I would walk in and you would like, you know, be like chatty and, you know, kind of like in stranger things, you know. Oh, like a Steve, like a Steve. Yeah. But I imagine that probably wasn't. No, no, no. I was, I was so depressed. Wow. And so like I could help you out with your ice cream needs. And if you like wanted recommendations. I could, I could do that, but I was not in a sort of like fun, like a fun place. Or like smash at the Alamo freeze where he was like, no, you know what you want. And then like, you know, trying to kind of like flirt with the people that came in.

No, absolutely not. I'm going to tell you what you would like. No, I would never. That shit drove me crazy in Friday Night Lights when someone came and was like, let me get a vanilla swirl and smash. It would be like, you want a burger and a root beer. They go smash. You're so cool. I would never. I would never. I'm in the service industry. Now, that's true. You're questioning the customers, you know, desires. Right, yeah. It's your job.

Another thing, purler beads or fuse beads. Sure. This is something that I got Small Sun to kind of work on his fine motor, but something that, like, I brought to a boys and girls club that I worked at. Yeah. When I first moved to Austin, it was at a middle school. And middle school is kind of funny in that, like, it's, pretty easy to kind of make it okay for these tweens to feel like kids again. And when I brought

those fuse beads out, man, everybody, everybody was so into it. Can you explain what they are for people who don't know? Yeah. So you get like a little, a little plate that has a bunch of like prongs sticking up. And then the purler fuse beads are like little tubular beads, but they're tiny. They're like a few centimeters tall. And they're in all different colors. And so you stack them on the plate and you can make like a little design and then if you put a hot iron on some wax paper and hold it over the fuse beads they'll melt together in a way yeah um and then you can make like i don't know like a coaster or an ornament or uh there isn't a lot of use for them i've seen a lot of like pixel art stuff because it's the same sort of concept that was i was thinking too i

was thinking maybe big son will enjoy this because he enjoys pixel art no not so much he just likes pixels it's tedious and i will say that small son does make me finish every single project he does. He's also very impatient, so he'll be like, I want the flag of Japan. And you're like, okay. And then he's like, but you have nine beads to do it in. And then I'm going to start to get pretty fussy. And then the ironing always takes longer because I'm so nervous about just melting it into a soup. Yeah, or his little hand going like, are you done? Boop? Ironed. But I love them. And I. Our kids? Yeah, man. Me too. Like, it's okay if they don't like purler beads. And to a lesser extent, purler beads. And I always get excited.

Even if a small son has a tremendous amount of demands, I'm still like, you're using them. Yeah. We have thousands right now. We have so many furlough beads. We will never go through all of them. No. Okay. I'll just say one more, which is, and this may not be something that shows up in your algorithm, but occasionally Facebook or Instagram will serve me double proposals, which is one person is proposing to their partner. And then the other partner reveals they also have a ring in their pocket. So good. I will watch all of those start to finish. Even though I know what the reveal is just by the title of the video, I love watching somebody go through their like carefully planned proposal and then the other person hugs them and then they pull out the ring like I was going to. Oh, it's so good. I saw one of those at Disney in my in my Instagram feed.

Didn't make you wish you had been a little better prepared when I popped my big question to you, that you could be sort of quick draw McGraw in that situation as well and be like, not so fast, Chief. I feel like you wouldn't like that. Hmm. I feel like it would knock you off balance in a way that would like kind of change the experience for you. Well, I'm also fiercely patriarchal. Like, I love that shit.

And you know I love that shit and I'm all about it. And so I would have found it sort of like. It would have been tricky. too, right? Because you planned a kind of setting for the proposal. I got you by surprise. And then how would I have like turned you a different direction and revealed a different part of the setting that I had prepared? Yeah, no, I got you by surprise. It would have been tough. I had been out of town. Yeah, I brought you home from the airport and proposed to your ass like right when we got home. You did not have time to. I'm feeling very defensive about my inability to shower you with a surprise proposal. You've showered me with so much love and light and joy. to this day.

I don't think it was faded for us to have a joint sort of proposal situation. Maybe 15 years. Vow renewal. I'll propose you. You'll propose me. I'll propose you marriage. I'll propose your ass. I'll propose you flat on the ground.

You'll be so proposed to. I can't wait. Do you want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes. Brooke says, Hi, my small wonders when I'm driving behind a car and all of a sudden I see a dog pop its head out the window, I immediately gasp and say hi to it, even if my windows are rolled up. It's such a fun surprise that makes me smile every time. Yep. This happened to us the other day. We had the kids in the

car with us and the car next to us. The dog was just full on head out. Were there two dogs? I remember there were two dogs. Yeah. I don't know how dog owners feel about it. Like, I don't know if it's taboo to let your dog put his head out the window. I imagine you do have to be safe about it. We were a stoplight. But it's a treat for everyone. It's a treat for all the commuters. It's great. Yeah. And I feel like, Because part of me felt kind of like, is it okay that we're staring directly at this car that is like two feet away from us? And I'm like, no, their dog is there. Their dog is there. They're anticipating this.

Isabel says when you go to message someone you care about and you see the three little typing dots next to their name and realize they went to message you at the exact same time, Kisman. That's the more sort of achievable low stakes version of proposing to someone at the same time. I do love that. Even if it's someone I don't care about, if I'm texting someone and I see they're texting me first, I'm like, oh, thank God. Although sometimes, tell me if this is true, sometimes you see the dots and the dots continue for a long time. Because you both have stopped to wait to see if the other person will send a message. I don't understand the mechanics of the dots enough to know whether like if somebody's dots are continuing and then they never send anything. Is it sometimes that they've just like opened another window?

Yeah, I don't know. They should just show you what the message is they're typing in real time. I think that we're ready. I think we can handle that. Like I know that I've voiced a lot of concern about how like, I don't. know, our rapid acceleration of like digital communication and how we haven't really thought about it much, just kind of like steamed ahead full force. This would be a huge acceleration of that if you could just see what the other person was typing and deleting in real time. But it would get

us away from this like walking down a hallway and running into each other type thing that happens in conversations sometimes. Food for thought, Zuck, get at me. Don't get at me, Zuck. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. It's called Wonderful. Thanks to Bowen and Augustus for the use for a theme song, Money Won't Pay. You find a link to that in the episode description. And thank you to Maximum Fun for having us on the network. Go over to Maximum Fun.com. Check out all the great stuff that we've been cooking up for you over there. Got some merch in the merch store. There's new logos for Schmaners and Sawbones, some new merch for those designs. There's a Macroy Family Clubhouse, Enamel Pen. All that is over at Macquariemerch.com. And if you are a fan of the bestie, you,

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