Wonderful! - Wonderful! Ep. 23: Eatin' all the Takis

Episode Date: February 22, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is Wonderful. Hey! I didn't see you come in there. You startled me. Here I was sitting in the podcast, and the door just creaked open, and you came inside without fucking knocking, and we could have been doing anything in here. Necking?
Starting point is 00:00:35 We? Who's we? Me and you. Oh, you're... Okay, the audience is the surprise. Yes. I thought I was. Let's start over.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Oh no, you caught us necking. And now, play along. Say the next. Look at the script where it says Rachel, and I highlighted it for you, so just read the next line. It says, Griffin, you're such a wonderful lover. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:58 That's weird. It's weird because you wrote it. Thanks for listening to Wonderful. It's a podcast where we talk about the stuff that we're feeling the stuff that's good the stuff that you like that you think is good and i'm just really excited to record this podcast with you i'm sorry that we are a day late at this point uh but you know bow buddy's perfect um he said it but i put my own fun griffin mcroy twist on it which is where i switch letters around sometimes i love the way you're holding that tear you look like you look
Starting point is 00:01:32 like conan o'brien um we had talked about doing like a new segment i don't know if you've given it any thought here at the top where like i struggle sometimes to think of things to talk about on this show not because i have a dearth of is a dearth a lot that's scarcity you're right i have a it's not like i have a dearth of like great things to talk about it's just like sometimes it's hard to talk for 10 minutes about the things that you're into because all you have to say about them is they're very good yeah and not be like asinine about it. Yeah. And so we talked about doing kind of like the episode we did where we just kind of rapid fired, like doing like one or two things that we're into right now
Starting point is 00:02:11 that maybe couldn't be a whole segment, but we wanted to talk about. And I don't have a hot name for this segment, but maybe just like hot segment. You're a brand generator, Griffin McElroy. What's in the hot segment today? What are you into that we can't really's in the hot segment today what are you into that we can't really go too deep into but what are you into i mean lemons i really thought about talking about lemons this week lemons have really been on the brain lately i i just got over a cold
Starting point is 00:02:38 that i caught from henry and i wanted to put some lemons up in my bevs. And then I realized, like, I just always want to have lemons around. Yeah, sure. But that's not a lot to talk about there. That's why Rachel hates Carfax, because they have a lemon-free guarantee. Whew. So. What's your thing? I played this game called Celeste that I wanted to talk about,
Starting point is 00:03:02 but then I was like, you know, it's one of those games where, like, it does some really cool stuff in the last, couple hours and i don't want to spoil it it suffice to say that like it's a phenomenal game and if you play any games it's out on like everything so if you play any games you should go play but it's just like a cool little mountain climbing platformer is this for your phone or i played it on switch uh but it's on like switch pc ps4 a bunch of stuff um it's by the guy who made Towerfall. You remember that game? It's like a multiplayer.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Oh my gosh, you were so into that. Yeah, so it's by the same guy and the platform, like the controls are just as tight. But it has some really interesting stuff with the main character suffers from depression and anxiety. And it really tackles those issues more than you would think this like pixelated platformer was going to in a way that that is really, really thoughtful, and ultimately kind of becomes the focus of the game, which I thought was really fascinating and handled really well.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I just finished it a couple days ago, and I'm absolutely bonkers about it. So that's what I'm into right now. There's other stuff, too. This was a good hot segment. We've been watching a lot of Terrace House Boys, Ex-Girls, Next Door, which was the original series that aired in Japan in 2013. We're about 50 episodes into it now. It ran for about 100.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And, sweet God, it is excruciatingly good. Oh, it's incredible. I think it's on Terrible House, if you're looking to find it. You can find out more about it in our wonderful Facebook group. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. But it's probably my favorite cast right now. We're about halfway through, like Griffin said, and the folks they have in the house right now
Starting point is 00:04:37 are stupendous. That was the hot segment. I think it's my turn to start. What's the music for the hot segment? Hot segment. So here's my first thing. Are. What's the music for the hot segment going to be? Hot segment. So here's my first thing. Are you ready? Sounds a lot like Hot Pockets.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Well, they stole it from me. I want to talk first. Yes. About puffins. It's been a while since we did an animal. Now, since the lovely wombat. I didn't know if you were talking about the cereal puffins. No, fuck the puffin cereal.
Starting point is 00:05:04 That's really good, though. No, it's not. It's toothsome. Puffins are great. Listen, when we talked about wombats, we started sort of a movement, a worldwide movement, and now wombats are the hottest thing. They are. They would be in the hot segment if we hadn't already talked about them.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Oh, by the way, if you have seen the book Diary of a Wombat, and have been interested in sending it to us, we already have it. Yes, thank you very much for the folks who sent that our way. Puffins, though. Here, let me hit you with this. Puffins, colon. Wombats of the sky and sea.
Starting point is 00:05:36 They can go both places. This is what I learned when researching the puffin. Wait, how are they similar to the wombat? Or are you just saying that because they're great? I like them. I like them a a lot they're the best bird uh if i didn't really appreciate puffins until we watched a television show for children called puffin rock that is on netflix uh it is pound for pound maybe the cutest television show ever made so relaxing it's got who's that dude the irish Chris-o-dowd?
Starting point is 00:06:06 He was in Bridesmaids. Oh. Yeah, he's like the narrator for it. It is a very cute show about some puffins that live up on a rock. And I was like, hey, you know what? I like these animals. I want to talk about them on the show. And here I am doing that.
Starting point is 00:06:21 These squat little guys, they got little black and white bodies, kind of penguin-like. But then they got these big, round, colorful beaks. Their beaks actually change color seasonally. Whoa. So they can attract mates during mating season. Ooh, I like that. Yeah, it's just like, look at my mouth. You like? Ooh.
Starting point is 00:06:34 You see these little guys, and they got these weird wings, and you're like, oh, great, Griffin's talking about another flightless bird. Nope. These fucking guys can fly super fast. Their wings flap 400 times a minute. Oh, like little hummingbirds. Like little hummingbirds, except that they can go up to 88 kilometers per hour. They can travel back in time. Can you translate that to miles per hour for me? Yeah, it's like 89. You know,
Starting point is 00:06:56 in Back to the Future, whenever they did it in literally any other country on Earth, they had to, you know, do the conversion to kilometers per hour. And it's about, yeah. Well, for kilometers per hour from 88 miles, it would be 87. Anyway, it's just plus one. That's my little shorthand for the conversion is it's just kilometers plus one. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:07:18 they can also dive under the water down to 60 meters. There is no escape from these puffins. What is with this metric article that you've put together? I'm just saying they can go up to 88 kilometers an hour in the sky and then they can dive down quick 60 meters below the surface of the ocean. I can't go down that low.
Starting point is 00:07:36 So is that 61 miles? It's 61 miles. They mostly live in Iceland, which has 10 million puffins, which in my mind sort of moves Iceland up the rankings of like the best. But there's some areas in Iceland where they do eat the puffin. And that bums me out in a pretty major way. I don't want to tell them how to do their business. And I would never look down on their customs.
Starting point is 00:07:59 You know, that's not me. It makes me sad to think about eating a puffin. Of course. Yeah. I'm picturing like a whole puffin on a skewer and it's very upsetting it's not ideal and thank you for giving me that mental image and our millions of listeners uh and i know you're probably asking yourself where they live up in a tree nest no no they burrow down into the ground and they make little holes they make little houses under the ground in little caverns that they dug out.
Starting point is 00:08:25 How do they protect themselves from predators? With their caverns. Most of their predators are like birds of prey. And they ain't going in a fucking hole. That's true. I'm a big hawk. I see a hole in the ground. That's not for me.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, you can't dive down. I'm a skybird. I'm not a fucking puffin. When mating season comes around, they usually congregate around the North Atlantic Ocean Islands. And typically, they try to get down with the same partner that they had the previous year. And some puffins, puffins have a life expectancy of 20 years. Some of those mating pairings are for life.
Starting point is 00:09:03 That's nice. And it's great because it's like, where's Sheila? I'm back. Where's Sheila? Sheila? Oh, there she is. Do you know why they do that, I wonder? They feel love.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Oh, okay. They form these long-term relationships with their partners, and they only lay one egg a year. Just one. They just roll the hard six on this one egg. What's the incubation on those eggs, I wonder? I don't know. I don't know. Probably like 61 meters.
Starting point is 00:09:30 They lay one egg a year. They do it down in their whole house. And the eggs hatch. And you know what comes out? A puffin? Do you want to guess what a baby puffin's called? Pufferino. That's very good.
Starting point is 00:09:43 It's a puffling. Oh, that's nice good it's a puffling oh god can you imagine um so what happens though if their little burrow isn't big enough for a puffin to really express themselves with the way that they like to make love what do you do what do you even what are you just asking all the questions on the tip of my tongue well sometimes atlantic puffins which is one of the three types of puffins that there are in the world, they'll go where rabbits make their burrows, and they'll find a rabbit burrow, and they'll get down in there. Ooh! How good is that? Hey, you're not using this anymore, right, other animal?
Starting point is 00:10:15 Because I'm going to just scoot into your zone, and I'm going to make it my own with my musk, my sex scent. Interesting. Are you kidding me, puffins? They're resourceful they're pragmatic these are good birds this is also a plot point on puffin rock where sometimes i think there was like a rainstorm and the puffins were like can i live with you for a bit rabbit and i was like yeah come on inside they did not make love griffin business idea okay an app for puffins so they know where all the caverns are okay for. For when they want to get frisky.
Starting point is 00:10:45 What's the install base for smartphones for puffins? Because I have a business idea. Smartphones for puffins. And then we're going to load these little guys down with apps. It's just wild. I'm going to use this rabbit house. Anyway, that really tickled me. Another great thing.
Starting point is 00:11:01 They have these big beaks. They use them to scoop up fish and plankton. And they bring it on home to their kids a couple times a day and they can fit like 10 12 50 100 meters of fish in that big big mouth and because they're such diligent parents they don't have to eat the food and then yarts it for the kid to eat like every other bird. They just hold it in the little fish prison of their mouths to feed it to the kids. It's a little ready station at a nice fancy restaurant. I bet that leads to some kind of awkward conversations because like a puffin will get home and they'll be like,
Starting point is 00:11:37 hey, Jeremy, how was your day? And they'll be like, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were making dinner. You had 50 meters of fish. Anyway, that's all I have on puffins. Best birds. Look at these little guys. You know what a puffin looks like, yeah?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Little guys. Yeah. I mean, I know what the television show tells me puffins look like. And it's 100% right anatomically, except they don't get down. But I guess they only get down. Do they only get down once a year? Or do they get down for funsies, too? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:12:02 Who knows? We could do a whole puffin podcast puffin talk nothing it's nothing no um what's your first thing uh so my first thing is probably not going to come as a surprise to many people as far as you know like there are a lot of people out there that probably aren't familiar with puffins but i imagine most of our listeners are familiar with tiny desk concerts oh tiny desk but just in case you're not, I thought I would talk about it because it's super cool. Yeah. It's an NPR music production
Starting point is 00:12:30 that started in 2008. The All Songs Considered host, Bob Boylan, attended a show in South by Southwest and was frustrated that they couldn't hear the music over the crowd noise. So they were seeing an artist, Laura Gibson, who's a folk singer, and they kind of joked
Starting point is 00:12:50 that she should come to record at their desk. They just have one. People don't know this. At NPR, they have one desk. They all have to take turns. Ira's like, can I, can I please? This is my Ira Glass impression. Can I please use the desk? So that's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Oh, weird. He sounds so much like you. Also, is he on NPR still? I don't know. I don't know. It's so political. Specifically Boylan's desk, I should say. And so a month later, she did that.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And they did an impromptu recording, posted it online. At that point, NPR music had only been around for about five months. And so Bob himself filmed it, had no team or anything. Sorry, that cracks me up. They were that like, you know, people seem to really be into this music stuff. We should really start something. NPR Music's great, though. They do a lot of those early listen things.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Before an album comes out. Yeah, I used to be really into that. So as of November 2016, more than 550 concerts have been conducted there and viewed about 80 million times on YouTube. And so this is something that used to be kind of just for kind of indie artists. If you look at some of the top views, Tallest Man on Earth is up there. Iron and Wine is on there, The National. But in 2014, the then co-host of the Microphone Check podcast noted there was a lack of hip-hop artists. And so since then, they've really focused on having more diversity uh in 2014 uh they brought t-pain on fantastic which apparently
Starting point is 00:14:28 is the top viewed performance uh t-pain is known for his uh auto-tune pitch correction i almost called it i couldn't i was sitting here trying to remember what it was called and i almost called it vocaloid like t-pain was like really into Hatsune Miku. He might be. We don't know. So he showed up with just a keyboard and did an impressive vocal performance that I think wowed everybody because they were used to his autotune work. Yeah, quit talking shit about T-Pain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And so it's made a big movement for Tiny Yes concerts. I think I've seen a Chance the Rapper one and the jewels i think did one as well yeah so just recently on the 19th uh they had big daddy kane do a performance and then uh george clinton and the p-funk all-stars were on january 24th yeah so they're like they really kind of expanded their oeuvre recently. Yeah, for sure. So as much as I like the Avett brothers, it's a broader audience now. So now they have a whole team that goes into recording these. But for those of you that aren't familiar, it's really a literal desk in a literal NPR office. And it's like the most intimate performance you'll see for most of these people. And so now they have a whole team and multiple cameras that capture
Starting point is 00:15:52 the performances. They have between three and five cameras that now capture it. And they have a sound producer that uses a set of shotgun mics. And he forgoes a PA system, which allows him to really crank up the volume on the mics. So yeah, I love it. I mean, as I mentioned, there's over 500 videos now, you can watch them all on YouTube. And it's a really cool way to see some of your favorite artists in like a really, like, intimate setting. It reminds me, I don't think we could do this now that we just did Tiny Desk Concerts. Have you ever seen AV Undercover, the AV Club series where they get bands to come in and pick songs?
Starting point is 00:16:34 They have a list of 30 songs, iconic songs from throughout modern music history, and then they have just a bunch of bands come in, and when you come in, you get to pick a song off the list, and then you have to cover it it is a fucking oh yeah great great great no you have told me about that before um cool uh hey can i steal you away to the place where the commercials live Oh, gross. There's all some smooches there. I know. Wipe them off.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Yuck. Oh, Griffin, come on. One of these days, you'll grow into it. No, never. You've got talkies breath. Just kidding. Oh, hey. No, you don't have talkies breath.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I'm all for improv, but come on. No, baby, you have to say yes, I do have talkies. No. And. No, but. Yes, I have talkies, Beth, and I'm sorry. Okay, I have a few messages to read. This message is for Beth, and it is from Nicholas.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Hey, baby, we've been together for over a year by now, and it's been, well, wonderful. You've made me happy in so many ways whether it's when we make dinner together play video games or leave parties early because we're both sleepy and want to relax with some netflix that's love oh that's us what a love well when we used to go to parties yeah we don't even do that we cut out the middleman. I simply can't wait to see where we go from here. I love you. I love you too, babe. No, it's the message.
Starting point is 00:18:10 You don't love me. Ever since that Takis comment, I feel a little mixed. Stop eating so many dang Takis all the time with every meal. I know you say they're full of good nutrients and fish oil and stuff. It's good for your heart. But I think you just like the spicy flavor on your mouth. So, okay. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Take me to jail. I'm wrong. This message is for Ray. It is from Elizabeth. Dear Ray, I'm the worst girlfriend for traveling to another country over your birthday, but I hope this, a happy birthday from Griffin Hey, happy birthday. But I hope this, a happy birthday from Griffin.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Hey, happy birthday. Makes up for it a little. Hey, happy birthday for real, though. And happy anniversary month, too. These past two and a half years have been the best. I love you so much, and I can't wait for all the adventures the future holds for us. All my love, E. Oh, that's a nice one you remember that song hey baby by gwen stefani uh-huh you want to sing a little bit of that for us i do not hi i'm comedian emily heller and i'm cartoonist lisa hannawalt
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Starting point is 00:19:36 So check us out on Maximum Fun. And let us mess up your brain. Yes, please. I have my second thing here. Wait, Griffin, before you start, do you want to stop eating that huge bag of Cheetos that you're eating right now? Okay, see? Now we're both having fun. Okay, and now I can be like, uh-oh, sounds like we've got ourselves a real crunch wars. Mm-hmm. So build on that.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Isn't this fun? Build on that. This improv? But mine was accurate. Well, I guess I don't eat that many Cheetos. Okay, anyway. Build on that. Isn't this fun? Build on that. This improv? But mine was accurate. And I, about me. Well, I don't, I guess I don't eat that many Cheetos. Okay, anyway. I want to talk about my second thing, and I'm nervous about it, because I'm worried it's going to make me sound like a 54-year-old man.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Which, oh God, that's just 24 years from now. I need to get living. I'm worried it's going to make me like uh i'm out of touch with the teens i guarantee whatever you say i will not know you might actually know this one uh it's a it's a it's a meme yes please don't please don't turn off the show you've already lost but it's the steamed hams meme do you remember steamed hams i mean the simpsons reference yes i know that okay that i mean that's all that's what it is it's a meme now it's a meme now welcome to 2018 it's a meme now
Starting point is 00:20:53 it's a meme now uh so i'm not like i'm not like a big meme fan because i think most of them are like a lot of it's just like lazy kind of recycled jokes i feel feel like. Like, oh, yeah. I feel like memes lost me after Success Baby. Success Baby was the peak, right? Yeah. But there's also mean memes and also hugely racist memes. And those are obviously not great. But what I love about Steamed Hams is how creative folks have gotten with it. What's the intent?
Starting point is 00:21:23 Is there an underlying intent to all the memes? Well, I will. Hold on. Are you asking me, like, why people enjoy memes in general or just steamed hams? No, specifically using this Simpsons clip, like, what is the purpose they're using it for? Yeah, so that's the next thing. Okay. And the next reason why I enjoy it is because, as far as
Starting point is 00:21:40 I can tell, it's sort of rise is completely nonsensical. It no sense so if you okay for starters because i'm sure everybody who listens to this show is a hip and you know loves to surf the web and go to their favorite pages and join some of their favorite boards and leave cool forum posts yeah uh and so I'm sure you know what it is. But if you don't, the original Steamed Hands is a sketch from a really weird episode of The Simpsons called 22 Short Films About Springfield, which is actually, I think, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:22:14 one of the best Simpsons episodes probably ever. It's like literally exactly all it is, just 22 little short stories. And the sketch is called Skinner and the superintendent i think and in it skinner invites a superintendent chalmers over for dinner and realizes that he burned the roast that he'd made and chalmers questions him about the smoke that's coming out of his oven which skinner explains is the steam from the steamed clams that he's making for dinner and then he sneaks off to crusty burger to get some crusty burgers and then explains to Chalmers that he actually said steamed hams which is what he calls hamburgers which is a New York regional dialect and Chalmers kind of grows increasingly incredulous and boy
Starting point is 00:22:54 talking about something that is already funny it's not funny at all uh but but the the bit is like it's fucking phenomenal it is also 22 years old it came in 1996, which that alone is kind of existentially terrifying. But like, why is it just now popping off? There is no explanation for it. And that is so, so, so wonderful to me. Simpsons jokes are like, there is a, they're a weirdly rich vein for shitposting. Just like people who people will you explain what shit posting is too because i didn't know until about a week ago yeah it's like low effort
Starting point is 00:23:31 purposefully low effort jokes probably memes most of the time that are still you know funny uh i mean they're they're more non-sense it's like a nonsensical low effort meme most of the time. God, we're going to get so many fucking tweets about this bit. Why did I choose this? But there's a lot of Simpsons shit that has been turned into these very, very long-running shitposting memes. And for whatever reason, Steamed Hams is kind of the gold standard. And for whatever reason, Steamed Hams is kind of the gold standard. But I feel like calling it shitposting is kind of dismissive, because there's a lot of genuine artistic and comedic masterpieces in this one.
Starting point is 00:24:11 So in October of last year, I feel like this is where things kind of exploded for Steamed Hams. There's a YouTuber named ExpNandBanana who posted Steamed Hams, but it's a custom Guitar Hero song, which charts every word, musical stinger, and sound effect from the original Steamed Hams sketch to a Guitar Hero level bar graph. I have prepared some videos on my computer really quick to give you some instruction on Steamed Hams. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:51 That is inspired yeah it's it's extremely good um and i think this it has like a million views on youtube and and kind of i think activated this to become because people were doing shit like this before, but it kind of caught fire after this video went up. And since then, people have been doing so much incredible stuff with steamed hams. There's a YouTube user named Finn MK, who does mostly like improvisational, like piano pieces over spoken word stuff. But every time a word is said, he like plays a little melody so that it matches up. And I can actually include this one in the episode because you can hear kind of what he does where every time a character says a word there's a corresponding piano note in the composition that is so good
Starting point is 00:25:34 why is there smoke coming out of your oven seymour uh oh that isn't smoke it's steam steam from the steamed clams we're having boom steamed clams that's incredible yeah that one's very very good um these these by the way are kind of sort of broad categories of steamed ham memes uh of just like including something that dubs over the sounds of the video perfectly or uh so the guitar hero one is is great because a big trend is editing uh steamed hams with like ui elements and sounds from any number of video game franchises and there's literally like no reference to granular uh there is one for Persona, which is like one of my favorite game franchises ever.
Starting point is 00:26:27 There's one for, the one I'm going to play just some audio of because I think it comes through really well is from the Ace Attorney series, which is a Japanese adventure game series where you are a lawyer who is sort of conducting these trials. There's a lot of sort of trial-based video games
Starting point is 00:26:44 that it has been dubbed over. This is Steamed Hams, but it's Ace Attorney. Oh, well, that was wonderful. Good time was had by all. I'm pooped. Yes, I should be. Good Lord, what is happening in there? Aurora Borealis? Aurora Borealis.
Starting point is 00:27:02 At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within your kitchen. Yes. And then there's so, so, so much YouTube poop edits, which I don't know if you're familiar with what those are, but it's YouTube shitposting, essentially. It's just called YouTube poop that really do it for me. This is one called Steamed Hams, but every word is replaced with its first occurrence, posting, essentially, it's just called YouTube poop, that really do it for me.
Starting point is 00:27:25 This is one called steamed hams, but every word is replaced with its first occurrence, where every time a word is repeated throughout the length of the sketch, they cut back to the first time that that word was said in the sketch until it becomes just an incomprehensible just toilet. You know, these hamburgers are quite similar to the ones they have at crusty burgers burgers old family recipe for steamed hams yes yes oh my god uh so that's steamed hams i like that okay like i wanted to include there is a level of craftsmanship to this that I was not anticipating and that's what I love about it it is a canvas steamed hams is a kid I know it's
Starting point is 00:28:11 kind of busted like I was not joking earlier when I said about like trying to talk about funny things is one of the least funny things I feel like you can do on this earth but I like this because it's it is a launch pad for whatever you want to make it. And it's such a like harmless enough, like meme with actually really good source material that every time a new one comes out, I find it just so, so, so delightful.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And I think it probably helps that like a lot of the like video game edits are like stuff that really, really speaks to me, but I just, I don't like many memes and so i find i get so excited when i have one that i feel like i can participate you know when a new one comes out uh okay so uh allegra at polygon has a uh a post at polygon that she wrote a while ago about the steamed hams she's updated it like nine times uh with like oh there's a metal gear solid
Starting point is 00:29:02 one it's so good um and so every time that get pushed up to the top of our site i'm like oh there's a metal gear solid one it's so good um and so every time that get pushed up to the top of our side i'm like oh yeah new hams thank you for indulging me you're welcome do you want to hear mine yes mine might be a little basic but i think it's worth mentioning crying at television shows. Why not just crying in general? Is it just... There is a special kind of crying. Well, first of all, you know me. I'm not a particularly expressive person on a regular basis.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Television shows really provide me with kind of an outlet to just let go. Yeah. You know? So I did some research on this, which I thought I would share. Okay. There's research specifically about crying at television shows? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Interesting. So this is from a Time article from 2017, Why It's Healthy to Cry Over TV Shows. Research shows that becoming attached to television personalities can be healthy psychologists call the types of relationships we form with fictional characters parasocial or one directional because we know all about these individuals but they know nothing about us there is an assistant professor of psychology at the university of oklahoma that says that our brains aren't really built to distinguish between whether our relationship is real or
Starting point is 00:30:27 fictional. Whoa. First of all, that's wild. Second of all, it's wild, but also it kind of sucks. I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:34 I'm sure it is, it is accurate, but like it sucks. That's how our brains work. Well, I think it's, it's, it explains why like art and media can be so powerful because it can trigger
Starting point is 00:30:44 your brain to react in a way that it would if anybody were to experience what you're seeing. So crying over sad television can include self-esteem boosts, decreased loneliness, and more feelings of belonging. Crying over sad television is also a modern example of what philosophers have referred to for thousands of years as the paradox of tragedy, which sadness is a negative emotion, but you can still enjoy tragic fiction because it is sad. Yeah. One theory behind the paradox is that tragic fiction can provide catharsis, as I was mentioning, or a purge of negative emotions. And people tend to feel better after crying. Fictional TV dramas, research also shows that it can improve people's ability to read the thoughts and feelings of other people. This is interesting. In a 2015 study, Barnes, the professor I mentioned earlier, found that people that watched an episode of The Good Wife were better able to correctly identify the emotions being conveyed in photos of human
Starting point is 00:31:50 faces. Thank you, Juliana Margulies. Compared to those who watched a nonfiction documentary or no television at all. Healing the Nation with Juliana Margulies. So the reason I reference this, there are a lot of shows that I watch without Griffin because they are kind of my purge shows. Yeah. Those include shows like This Is Us. Before that, it was Parenthood.
Starting point is 00:32:11 I still am one of the few people that is following along with Grey's Anatomy. Parenthood, I would walk into the living room and you just like turn up to me just soaking with tears. And I'd be like, I will comeback you doing okay it's the tv show right okay good yeah uh i have two questions yes one do you remember the first time you cried at a television show gosh no do you yes okay continue because i remember like uh i was probably in like middle school maybe like what is happening well no i remember like seeing I was probably in like middle school, maybe even early high school. Well, no, I remember like seeing my, you know, my parents cry when we watched like a movie
Starting point is 00:32:50 or like, I would come in and they were watching like ER or something and they would be crying and I'd be like, oh, okay. I don't get it. And then I watched the series finale of Boy Meets World and I was fucked up, dude. I was fucked up dude I was fucked up you heard that class dismiss and you just fell Feeney turns off the light and says class dismiss and I say fucking tears dismissed from my
Starting point is 00:33:12 eyes and face and ducts always always always second question hardest you ever cried at a TV show probably Parenthood oh I mean Friday Night Lights is another one i was like for me it's friday night lights the episode where um no spoilers it's not really a spoiler
Starting point is 00:33:33 but uh there's like it's a one episode arc where uh oh my god i can't remember taylor kitch's character's name oh riggins riggins uh brother like kicks him out of the house because he's being a jag yeah uh and he doesn't really have anywhere else to go, and some other bad, I forget what, like, bad shit happens to him. Uh, but they get in this big fight, it's the episode where they get in, like, the big, like, actual fist fight in their house. Uh, and he gets kicked out, and then at the end of the episode, like, he's, like, some terrible stuff's happened, and he comes home, and his brother, like, makes him a sandwich
Starting point is 00:34:04 and gives him a beer and kind of like cleans up a like knocked over stool and they just sit there and he puts his hand on the back of his neck and it's playing that um that iron and wine song i'm about to start crying right now on the podcast that shit gets me so bad Yeah. Yeah. It's a phenomenon that I guess I wouldn't expect would apply to me because I'm not, as I mentioned earlier, a particularly sentimental or weepy person. But there is something that is so nice about sitting down with the show and just getting it out there, man. Just getting a good cry on. Yeah. My so-called life is another one.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Oh yeah. Really get me on that. We mentioned, uh, terrorist house boys, ex girls next door earlier. I've cried maybe four or five times. And that's,
Starting point is 00:34:56 that's really unique for me because I don't really cry at most reality. Yeah. Reality shows, especially when they get like, if I get a whiff of Oh, this is bullshit. It's just there's no there's no chance of it. But there's some genuinely pretty heartbreaking things that happen. Yeah, it's not like it's not from conflict that seems motivated by some kind of device. You know, it's from real people having these kind of real, like depth of emotion about
Starting point is 00:35:24 their connection with another person usually and it's powerful it's very good yeah um i think that's it do you want some some missions yes please here's one from gary who says a local children's theater company recently needed an emergency replacement actor and i took the job the stress of learning an entire show in three days was pretty substantial oh my god i just got like did you get a wave i got winded from the fear of that uh but today after my first show the elementary school we performed at thanked us all by dabbing at the same time if 300 children hitting a dab at the same time isn't absolutely wonderful i don't know what it is oh my gosh is did the building fucking fall over from the power from at least the sheer wind force yeah exactly that was displaced
Starting point is 00:36:07 by 300 heads hitting 300 elbow pits um jake says one of my favorite things is watching videos of astronauts demonstrating how things work aboard space stations on the youtube channel video from space the iss crew showcases mundane actions like sleeping, washing your hair, and preparing food that are made infinitely more entertaining by the crazy space tech and lack of gravity. Even just watching them move around the station makes me feel something that you could reasonably describe as childlike wonder. Love this shit. I watched a video on Facebook the other day of this astronaut who was like, I wonder what happens if you try to wring out a wet cloth in space? astronaut who was like i wonder what happens if you try to wring out a wet cloth in space and did it and the water just kind of like forms a weird barrier around the cloth that just kind
Starting point is 00:36:50 of stays there and i was like oh and you could see him too like whoa okay that's what happens i'm a scientist you love that space i do love that space get me up there please um final one here emma says at my high school during lunch they, they had been playing the Olympics on a big projector. I think it's so wonderful to hear everyone at lunch making reactions to figure skating or snowboarding. And I wanted to share that with you guys. Doesn't that sound nice? That does sound nice. Eating a big square pizza and just looking up at the, you know, the big snowboard jump.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh, I should have brought the woman who made the Olympics for the half-pipe ski competition just by sort of like going to all the qualifiers and not falling over. That could have been our hot segment. Yeah. Well, we can do a hot segment at the end of the show, too, of the things that we remember just during the 45 minutes that we were recording. I wanted to thank a few listeners that sent us things in our video box. We got some hand-designed valentines from from an etsy shop that's a eat me drink me co.etsy.com uh we got a book called nobody likes a goblin which i really appreciated uh we got a calendar called brick of chicago and it's just every month is a photo of different bricks around
Starting point is 00:38:06 chicago from will uh so thank you for that emily b sent us a catnip toy for cecil oh my gosh she destroyed it i've never seen anything like it so happy wild we had never given him catnip before we actually have and he didn't like go for it but i guess now in his old age he's uh we also got some great shirts and i'm actually not sure who sent them to us but there's a texas shirt of the month club yeah they're really nice and they're beautiful so this is just some of the things that we've gotten in our po box thank you so much yeah it's po box 666-39 austin texas 78766 we only check it about once a month so i apologize for all those people we aren't able to mention um i want to thank bowen and augustus for the use of our theme song money won't pay you can find a link to it in the episode description
Starting point is 00:38:48 and i also want to thank maximum fun for having us on the network go to maximum fun.org and check out all the amazing shows there you are going to just love all of them to bits and pieces um there's stuff like heat rocks who probably has their own hot segment uh jordan jesse go go fact yourself Go fact yourself. Go fact yourself is a new one. There's a bunch at MaximumFun.org. And I think that's it, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Okay. Griffin, put down that big bag of Double Stuff Oreos. What'd you put down? A big bag of dried dookie? You're going to come at me with all my snacks? I hate this game. Rachel has never eaten Takis in her life. Thank you. I love it. I love it.
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