Wonderful! - Wonderful! Ep. 32: 1995: A Look Back

Episode Date: May 2, 2018

Griffin's favorite unexpected animated musical! Rachel's favorite insect! Griffin's favorite song that helps him drive safely! Rachel's favorite brain trick! Music: "Money Won't Pay" by bo en and Augu...stus - https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoya MaxFunDrive ends on March 29, 2024! Support our show now by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. Yeah, I know. You said, hi, I'm Rachel McElroy. And you did it in such a this is wonderful it's a podcast about things wonderful i liked it though it was very it was different like a news anchor hi i'm rachel mackaroy and i'm sad to report that all the pizza got got by the noid breaking news today sad news this wednesday. Lanoid strikes again worldwide with his neurotoxin that only affects pizza's brains, I guess, because it is a neurotoxin.
Starting point is 00:00:52 You know, I bet Pizza Hut was like, Domino's, that's such a silly gimmick. But where's Pizza Hut now? Still making pizza, I think, right? Did they shut down? I haven't seen a Pizza Hut in a very long time. Okay that could just be because just because you don't see them doesn't mean they're not dominoes i know yeah i mean dominoes is all over that pizza so there is something to be said for this strategy of let's make a mascot and the mascot is just somebody who comes around and fucks up our shit i like that so the new apple computers maybe we get uh john hodgman back and
Starting point is 00:01:24 he's playing the pc but this time he just beats the fucking shit out of a bunch of MacBooks and iPads and he, you know, throws a big box of iPads in the river. And then you get little poseable John Hodgmans. Yeah. And it's like, you got to get, you better get these iPads before Hodgman throws them all in the river, like some sort of revolutionary war guy. Yeah. Like the Boston Tea Party. Like the Boston guy. Whoever that guy. Yeah. Like the Boston Tea Party? Like the Boston guy, or whoever that was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So this is wonderful, and this is a podcast that we do sometimes, and who, you know, when we feel like it. Get off our fucking jocks. I didn't know you were our dad. Do you have any small wonders? I can't remember mine. Will you go first?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yes, I do remember mine. It's that five pound bag of jelly beans from the Starburst company. Still getting in there. Still working my way through those. Thank you to the listener who sent those in. It's just like a nice little, you know, if I'm walking through the kitchen and I'm doing something and maybe sometimes I even make a little detour to go in the kitchen because I know my friend, the now four pound bag of jelly beans is in there. You know, I'll just stop in and I'll grab a couple, you know. That reminds me what mine was going to be.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Oh. Gummy vitamins. Yeah. You have a fun way of referring to this in a way that I find like maybe it's a slam on me because I eat these so much. It's a slam on me because I eat these so much. Griffin is a big gummy vitamin fan. And I feel like we have containers of them all around the house.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah, sort of little dead drops, if you will. And there is always some in the bathroom. And so occasionally I'll grab a little pawful on my way out. And Griffin chastised me once, said those are my vitamins. And I said, it's bathroom candy. Yeah, which is a great point. It is why I enjoy them. And it is up for grabs.
Starting point is 00:03:11 But it was special calcium gummies. And you know my bones. When I run too fast, my bones make a whistling noise. Because of how porous they are. I hear that because you are always running. The other day I spilled a soda on the floor and I used one of my porous bones to just soak it right up. And then I wrung my bones out over the kitchen sink and then, you know, fresh clean bones. Well, kind of clean.
Starting point is 00:03:36 They still had some soda in them. I think I go first this time. Why is this always such a, why can't we keep this straight? We need a chore wheel or something. I know, we really do. I'm pretty sure I go first this time. Please go first. I have two themed ones.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And my theme for this week is 1995, the year it all came together. I thought you were going to do like one of your, my brother, my brother and me style 20 slates clean or whatever. No, those are two things. Very, very, very hard to come up with. And two, not even close to worth the effort that it goes into coming up with them. 1995. 95. Where were you? Where were you on your journey? Oh, I mean, I was 13. I was 13. I was 8.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I was 8 years old. Oh, and what a good age. 13, not so great. That's 8th grade, right? Ugh, God. 8th grade. I mean, we both could have been at the roller skating rink. Yeah, but you wouldn't have looked my way. You would have been at a birthday party and I would have been holding hands.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Aw, man, that bums me out to think about. And I wouldn't have been invited to the party. I would have been there on my own accord, you know, playing the Simpsons arcade game, because that one kicked ass. But anyway, I was eight. And, um, a little movie came out. Movie came out. And we just watched this movie. It is
Starting point is 00:05:01 a goofy movie. Now... That's literally the name of it. He wasn't saying that. But can I say something? If a shoe fits, a big goofy shoe, it fits. Because this movie can get goofy. But here's the other thing. It gets serious, too.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And I didn't even know a movie could do that. I wish I loved. So we just watched it. We were inspired by its recent cameo on an episode of Gil and Gilbert the very good Polygon streaming series that we watched and Brian sang a little bit of the music
Starting point is 00:05:34 from the movie and then this weekend I was like we were looking for something to watch with Henry I was like goofy movie here we go there was a great arc to our viewing of a goofy movie because Rachel had never seen it before. And we watched a little bit of it that morning. And then later that night, Henry had gone to bed.
Starting point is 00:05:49 We were looking for something to watch. I was like, how about more goofy movie? And Rachel said, no, I wasn't really enjoying it. And I said, who are you, but okay. And then I woke up the following morning and Rachel was already up with Henry finishing, polishing off that old nut. That is a goofy movie. And she was like, okay, yes, this movie is very good. It is, it's very good. following morning and rachel was already up with henry finishing polishing off that old nut that
Starting point is 00:06:05 is a goofy movie and she was like okay yes this movie is very good it's very very good um i feel like though it is like a 90s kids like 90s kids love this thing to like talk about a goofy movie like yeah it's like a buzzfeed listicle it is very I think, to write people off for being sort of ironic about it, or only talking about like the big musical numbers in it as being like the thing that they remember. And so in an effort to kind of avoid that, I don't want to talk about the music. I just want to focus on like the movie because I think that not just kidding the music fucking rules. The music is extremely good. I didn't realize we started watching it, and very quickly it cleared me.
Starting point is 00:07:06 This is basically a musical. It is a musical. And it also is a musical about the troubles between a father and son, and I don't know where the mom is. Is that ever made clear in the Goofiverse? I don't think so. There's probably some apocryphal Goofy. Here's the thing, though. I mean, she definitely left him, right?
Starting point is 00:07:28 And not like she passed away. Oh, man. Yeah, because I don't think they would get into, I mean, either scenario doesn't hit me first glance as especially goofy. Yeah. That's a good point. This movie, y'all, it has no right to be as good as it is i remember going to see it in theaters when i was eight and i was like dragged there by my mom and dad and i was like i was already so sure that i was too cool to see this movie which in a lot of
Starting point is 00:07:59 ways made me like max from a goofy movie the cool sort of teenage son who thinks he's too cool for his goofy dad. But then the jams came on and I was like, Oh, this movie is too cool for me. I feel like this movie is going to kick me out of it for being in it for not being cool enough. It is an animated musical and it's about this road. You've fucking seen a goofy movie or you haven't. And if you haven't, you don't need me telling you about what the goofy movie is about. or you haven't and if you haven't you don't need me telling you about what the goofy movie's about um but it is it dives into like here's the thing i feel like there was a point where disney movies and especially like pixar movies which i know is like its own sort of jam but i feel like there was a point where it was like okay these are going to start being these kind of like fun
Starting point is 00:08:41 family-friendly affairs that also start tackling some serious shit and that's not to say that like the old you know black diamond whatever they were called or blue diamond i forget like the special vhs's but like beauty and the beast and um uh uh wow that's the only disney movie i can remember little mermaid little mermaid it's not to say that they didn't like tackle that stuff but i'm talking about that real relatable shit that all the Pixar movies try to dial into. And I feel like a goofy movie kind of does that because it's about being embarrassed by your goof-ass dad. And also trying to do your best for your son and not knowing how. And getting lots of unsolicited advice from a bunch of dipshits.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And there's maybe something a little bit relatable in me. Also, I know that I'm going to be an embarrassing dad and I've already come to grips with that. But this movie really shows their relationship from two perspectives. From the perspective of like a young person who's trying to fit in and trying to nurture this new exciting relationship.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And this dad who's like losing touch with his son. That's what won me over is that the movie started and it's like surly teen thinks dad is lame. And I was like, Oh, I've seen this one before. And so I was just kind of going along with it. And then you really get to see the dad side of it. And that's the heart. And that's the heart of it. And there are lots and lots of scenes that like really delivers on that heart in a way that like i had forgotten about here's the thing about this movie y'all and i hope at this point you i have broken through the surface of like irony like this movie not only has like this
Starting point is 00:10:19 movie's not only still a good watch i feel like it's gotten better with time in a way i feel like i enjoyed the music a lot when i was a kid um and now like that sound is so fresh to me because there's nobody really making jams like that anymore uh but also like the themes the the family themes like really resonated with me a lot more on this on this most recent watch um so okay we've talked about the music uh the it's a musical right so there's a lot of music that is sort of set to their trip there's like an on the open road song they sing as they hit the road but the two big numbers are sung by a fictional rock star named power line and the first one is called stand out from the crowd it's fine the second song
Starting point is 00:11:00 uh which plays in the big climactic finale of the movie is called eye to eye it is the slap it is so so good i've listened to it like 10 times today this the the scene that it underscores is three minutes long and it ties together the entire movie set to this fucking dope song that has a key change in it that is a gift to all of us from tevin campbell who does the voice of power line uh it is it is so good and the song's really good and i don't know we just we just re-watched it and it really stood out to me i cannot think of too many movies from my childhood and i watched the shit out of this movie as a kid especially once it was out on vhs that has actually improved with time. I was nervous to watch it with you because I was like, uh-oh, what if it stinks?
Starting point is 00:11:47 But no, that's a good one. I really, at first, it felt very pat to me, like the premise and the characters. And I was just like, I don't get it. And then I really hung in there and it paid off in a big way. So here's the thing. A goofy movie, much like Nick Drake, unappreciated in its time this movie has a 53 on rotten tomatoes here are some of the reviews written uh by certain critics uh timeout says insipid songs and not much story hey you need to take a fucking time out in the garbage can
Starting point is 00:12:19 which is where you and this review belongs and inko this is san Francisco Chronicle. An incoherent mess that jumps from one unlikely, brainless, crash-bang situation into another. It does a little bit. Juicy cerebellum. Why are you on Rotten Tomatoes? Nobody knows what this is. Disney quickie without any heart. It has lots of
Starting point is 00:12:40 heart. It really does. It has more heart than you have. Also, let's go back to that previous review about the whiz-bang scenarios. Yeah. That's goofy. That's goofy. Hello. That's kind of goofy.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'd like you to meet my friend Goofy. He's a weird dog with a son, which means somebody fucked him at some point. But anyway, all he wants is for his son to love him. He's going to do his best. And I'm sorry if he doesn't do it. Sorry that he's not the ideal dad there, San Francisco Chronicle. Scott Weinberg, eFilmCritic.com says, yep, all goofy all the time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:14 There you go. So not completely unappreciated. I like Griffin's movie corner. This is fun. I've done this before talking about the Pokemon movie and seeing how it got slammed. And that one's fine. Whatever. A goofy movie is good.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And people who call it out for not having enough heart are just weren't watching the same movie as everybody else. Yes. Anyway, a goofy movie holds up. Holds up. What's your first thing? Lightning bugs. I love these guys. And they're fascinating, too.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Did you have Louie the lightning bug? I don't know what you mean. You gotta play it safe around electricity. Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. Well, you say of course. Who was it? Because I thought he was like a local power company mascot. I think they used him.
Starting point is 00:13:58 For all power companies? I don't know, but I know this. Okay, sorry. I didn't mean to distract. I love lightning bugs. Are you searching for it right now? No. He's an AEP mascot, which I guess is like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:13 We can't go down. Next week, we'll do a whole segment on Louis the Lightning Bug. So lightning bugs have special light-emitting organs, usually on the lower abdomen. I don't like thinking about bugs having organs. To me, they're just kind of like crunchy bug stuff. They have this enzyme called luciferase, which in the presence of magnesium and oxygen produces light. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:43 But not all fireflies light up. Oh my God, this is a children's book waiting to be written. Apparently, California and other places on the West Coast have fireflies, but they don't light up. Then they ain't fireflies. They're weird. They're just like weird mosquitoes at that point. Fireflies are actually beetles, apparently.
Starting point is 00:15:02 What? Yeah, they're beetles. If you think about it, their bodies look like little beetles. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Sorry, I'm still distracted by the fact that some of them don't light up. Why wouldn't they get their own bug name at that point? Is it just like, okay, never mind.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I'm going way too deep down the rabbit hole so early on this one. So there are more than 2 000 species of fireflies um and they don't all glow the same color if they do light up have you ever seen different colors because they gave an example of a firefly in the southern appalachian mountains which i thought maybe you'd be familiar with i mean for me it's's kind of like light bulb colors, and maybe that's too obvious an answer, but you get something like this one, like, you know, lamp. Do you remember lamp?
Starting point is 00:15:52 I do. Oh, we love this lamp. Like, oh, like the Anchorman joke. Yeah. But it has a nice soft yellow glow, and then there's some that have a harsh bright white glow, and I feel like lightning bugs. But I've never seen, like, I don't know, a blue't know a blue one there's yellow orange and there is there's blue oh the southern
Starting point is 00:16:10 appalachian mountain one is blue i'm more western appalachia um okay i don't really know how well if it's the appalachian mountain region that encompasses like 14 states, yeah. So the flashing of the light is typically associated with males. Horny. Yeah, to attract. I was guessing, but when you're talking about animals and the weird stuff they do, answer is most of the time horny. Is one species of female that can perform an array of robust flashes meant to mimic the come hither calls of females from other firefly species. Desperate to mate, males will soar to investigate what looks like an amorous female and are promptly devoured. By another lightning bug? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So the lady lightning bug will lure them in and then munch them. I mean. They're called femme fatales. Wait, that's really their name? Yeah, like informally. Holy shit. Some of them will even take to the skies and hunt blinking males on the wing. This is known as hawking.
Starting point is 00:17:21 They've also been known to filch other fireflies that have become trapped in spider webs. Holy shit. So they're like super predators. Super predators taking the other food from the other predator. You gotta be careful with that. Well, femme fatale, you're gonna get eaten up by a spider yourself. Do you think if a spider eats enough fireflies, their guts will turn
Starting point is 00:17:39 glowy? Ooh, that's a goosebumps book waiting to happen. I'm coming up with a lot of kids' books ideas over here. Yeah, but Firefly is for me now that the weather's starting to get warmer. I'm starting to get excited about the return of the Firefly. I never did the thing. I appreciated the, like, you crush a Firefly and then he leaves the glow on you, but I never did that. I thought that was bad. Well, good. But I know I've seen people do it, and it's pretty neat. I mean, I judge that, right?
Starting point is 00:18:17 I remember distinctly going over to the house, like a farmland house of a kid I went to church with, and he got a tennis racket out and killed so many fireflies with it that it was glowing like some sort of, you know, like Mjolnir or something like that. I never did that, but I did catch some of these dudes in a jar, which if you think about it is probably even worse because at least the
Starting point is 00:18:34 tennis racket, it's bang, bang, boom. The jar is a slow one. Yeah. I poked holes in it. I'm not a complete animal.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I don't think I ever caught them other than in my hand. Oh, it's nice. And also probably bad for them. Yeah. So of the 2,000 species, there are over 125 living in the United States.
Starting point is 00:18:56 The fireflies produce a cold light, which has no infrared or ultraviolet frequencies. Whoa. Yeah. I mean, I guess that, huh. I guess like phosphorescent stuff doesn't produce heat. Well, no, that's weird. Yeah, I can't explain it.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Like iridescence is a type of light that doesn't give off heat, right? And so I guess that makes sense. I don't know. God, hey, babe. Yeah. Should we go to. God, I, hey, babe. Yeah. Should we go to science school? I think so. Uh, so yeah, so that's, that's some information.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I got that from, uh, there's some information on the Smithsonian website about fireflies that I thought were pretty cool. There's so many animals in this world of ours. It's true. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Cosmos. There's so many animals in this world of ours. It's true. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Cosmos, too. I'm Rachel.
Starting point is 00:19:48 There's so many animals in this world of ours. And it feels like today everybody's... Beep, boop, bop, boop, beep, boop. Cell phone. Everybody's, you know, playing Fortnite on their cell phone. Back in my day, when you would see a glow at night yeah it would be a firefly yeah and not somebody's phone not somebody's dirty phone but what i'm saying is if we could get a way to make more animals be glowing maybe people start looking up from that phone is that a big glowing bear yeah it is oh you know the other thing that's cool
Starting point is 00:20:25 about fireflies so they start out as little larvae and the larva glow oh is that where the glow worms comes from yeah i think so um but yeah they'll go like in a tree or in the um in the ground and sometimes they'll like incubate for like over a year do you think that at any point in the history of the world a spider has gotten two fireflies in each hand and then gone to a rave and just been like i hope so that would be so funny. Can I steal you away? Not bad, not bad, not bad. I feel good about that. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I'm going to record just a bunch of those, then we can drop them in after each advertisement, and it'll be like, you know, a little stamp, we'll see a little approval. Do you want to read the first Jumbotron? Yes. This message is for, and this is what it says. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:21:37 This message is for three jerks. Oh, God. And it is from the fourth jerk. Oh, I see. A little self-raz. A year ago, I would never have thought that I would meet my best friends in a video game based on screaming in terror as someone chases you down
Starting point is 00:21:54 to do a bad hit on you. Wow, this is nice. But here we are. Thank you for talking to me as I fall asleep, for talking me down from panic attacks, for genuinely loving me and helping me learn to love myself. I love you. You think we're talking about like,
Starting point is 00:22:10 um, Pokemon snap or I was going to ask you what video game it was. PUBG. Wait, what is it? Three, um, screaming and terror.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Someone chases you down to do a bad hit on you. Yeah. I mean, probably PUBG. I mean, it has teams of four. I don't know. Anyway, that's just off the dome. It's either that or Pokemon snap. Yeah, I mean, probably PUBG. I mean, it has teams of four. I don't know. Anyway, that's just off the dome.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It's either that or Pokemon Snap. Here's another Jumbotron. This one is for Miyako, the Alpha Singer, and it's from Adam, the Omega Brown. Oh, wait. I think Singer is the last name, but probably with a last name like that, you gotta have some pretty good pipes, yeah? Anyway, hey, Go hey goose happy burp day it's just people are amazing okay language is amazing we can do so much with it
Starting point is 00:23:00 happy burp day oh man i hope you're having a grand day, even if this message doesn't fall on your actual birthday, which was January 5th. Okay. So we had our own little Burp Day, if you know what I mean. I really burped it on this one. I hope we have more
Starting point is 00:23:19 bat hugs, snake kisses, and ham soups this year. Either way, do you want to get Indian tonight? I'm hoping to get some dippables going, and it's cold out, and Indian sounds nice and warm. Let me know. You have my number. This is an all-time very good message. Word for word, pound for pound, letter for letter,
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Starting point is 00:24:33 And I would recommend starting at episode one. Bye. My march through 1995 continues with my next topic. Oh, please. So a little bit of backstory. And Rachel's going to know this because it's her life um henry who is our son is at an age now where his personality is starting to develop and really come forward and that process as a parent uh if you if you have kids you you probably know is very magical it's very cool your baby goes from this like little person who is essentially a Tamagotchi
Starting point is 00:25:07 that you have to keep alive by pressing the diaper button and the food button and the don't, don't drop or let fall down button over and over again. But then at a certain age, they begin to develop wants and preferences and ways of expressing themselves. That is like uniquely them and that's very cool because that feels like a new person has shown up and it's a person that like doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:30 exist anywhere else in the world it's neat it's like a way of like really driving that home however there's one place where henry expresses himself in a way that makes me incredibly miserable and that is in the back seat of my car literally at any point driving because he does a yell he does a he does one long yell that sort of goes from the beginning of when we start driving to the end, which is a natural thing. He's learning, you know, I can make noise. And so he's doing it. The car, however, is a place where I have to focus in order to keep from driving into a ditch, obviously. And so having a screaming human being in the back seat of the car is not ideal
Starting point is 00:26:05 and so on long car drives i resort to listening to music that keeps henry placated and there's one track which inexplicably always does the job i genuinely do not know if i actually enjoyed this song anymore or if i ever enjoyed it but i do know that I owe it a huge debt of gratitude. This is that song. Oh, Dave, welcome to the podcast. Oh, Dave, you made it. Took us a while to get you here, didn't it? Took us a while.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Dave, you know, your schedule was all full up. Our schedule was all full up. And I'm so glad we've come together. You brought the whole band. That's cool. Henry is asleep, so if you wouldn't mind keeping it down. Actually, your jam is his jam. So if you want to go in there and do a little Tiny Desk
Starting point is 00:27:05 concert, that might be good. This is Dave Matthews Band's, they call it their anthem, or I guess Dave has called it their band's anthem, is Ants Marching, which is off their chart-topping album of the 90s, Under the Table and Dreaming. Now, I am not a
Starting point is 00:27:21 big Dave Matthews Band fan. However, I am a big fan of not veering my car off the road into a ravine or something. And so I am a big Ants Marching fan because this song gets the fucking job done. Also, can I say something, Griffin? Griffin is very shy, and so he wouldn't admit this. Okay. But he has a really enjoyable impression of dave matthews uh singing this song yeah i mean the lyrics i can't remember a lot of but there's one that's like candy man something the loss of a
Starting point is 00:27:52 sweet tooth torture by the way i can't do he's asleep and i would really take these turns here's a problem no i don't want to get into it but a lot of my impressions end up being aaron neville so um listening to it as often as i have which is to say four times a day wow really four or five times a day has given me time to analyze ants marching with an almost like exegetical eye. Just a really, really deep, deep dive. And let me say this off the top. This song is the 90s, at least one four of the 90s, crystallized into pure fucking amber. I don't actually really know what it's about.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Oh, we're going to get into that too. Okay. I'm not just talking about how it was everywhere in the 90s, but just, like, musically speaking, it's got some str- Do you know about Canyon.Midi? This is a song that came with every Windows computer, and it is the most- It sounds like a sitcom opening that Bill Gates himself composed. He did not. There was somebody who, like, made all this music that came on, and, like, youaster card and you installed it in your computer and it'd be like,
Starting point is 00:29:05 This song is that to me, but for the entire decade of the 90s. The dueling saxophone and violin played by the late Leroy Moore and Boyd Tinsley could be cut out of the song and shot into space for aliens to know more about the 90s than a whole library of historical texts could possibly get across.
Starting point is 00:29:32 It just, any song that, there is no song that sounds like this. There is no way to compare it to anything. To me, though, a saxophone in a rock song from the 90s now we're talking now that's what i call 90s it reminds me of being at the neighborhood swimming pool uh i don't know if you're well you didn't have a lot of pool options i know where you grew up but they used to play the radio and this song was constantly on the radio and so when i hear it i think think of being a 13-year-old at the pool. It reminds me of a couple of guys on the street in New York, and they're wearing sunglasses that the lenses are very small,
Starting point is 00:30:14 and they're wearing turtlenecks, and they both have denim jackets that they sort of throw over their shoulder. Yeah. Wow, that's a real vivid picture. That's what this song reminds me of. The other thing about Ants Marching that I've realized in listening to it so many times is that the message of the song is so douchey and so condescending. I'm going to go ahead and cross this bridge. I do think I like this song.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I've done it at karaoke before. Yes. this song. I've done it at karaoke before. I did it at karaoke before because Dave Matthews is very fun to sing his very special voice that he does with the organs that God gave him.
Starting point is 00:30:53 These are some of the lyrics from the song, and you hear them on the radio, and when you listen to the song on the radio, you're just waiting for the loosen, loosen, cut, cut. You're just waiting for that part, and so you don't actually listen. But here's some of the words. Driving in on this highway, all these cars end up on the sidewalk. People in every direction.
Starting point is 00:31:11 No words exchanged, no time to exchange. And all the little ants are marching, red and black antennas waving. They all do it the same. They all do it the same way. Well, fuck you, Dave. I'm sorry, Dave, that I'm going to Starbucks like a lot of other people. I need caffeine because I was up until 2 a.m. last night doing work on the podcast, and I had to go and drive Henry today, Carolee, in the morning.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Sorry I went to Starbucks like a lot of other people did. Can you get off my fucking balls for a second, Dave Matthews and Tyer Band? Right? I'm sorry that I'm at the mall, but like, J. Crew clothes fit me pretty well, and so I just thought I would dip in here on my lunch break and get a new belt, you fucking dick. It is not uncommon for musicians to make the observation that people are living in a little boxes type existence. They're sheeple.
Starting point is 00:32:05 So it's funny. We actually covered a song like that from Regina Spector, Ghost of Corporate Future. However, I feel like Ghost of Corporate Future, while it does identify like this thing, it also does it in like a hopeful way. And the message of that song ultimately is like, if you realize that like everybody's kind of in the same boat, then that's how you get inspired to try and shake things up every once in a while. This song is like, you're a fucking aunt to me.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I'm Dave Matthews Band. I'm going to dump my bus's whole load of poop on your boat. Handle it. I'm being hard on the song for comedy's sake. But it just stuck out to me because I've sung this song and enjoyed this song in the car with my son so many times. But I think the message of you're all ants is like a little bit. Now the chorus, take these chances, put them in a box until a quieter time lights up you up and die. Lights down you up and die i don't even
Starting point is 00:33:06 think there's anything especially helpful in there there's nothing very prescriptive i think in the whole song which would have been refreshing but griffin yeah this podcast is called wonderful i here's the thing i like the song i like the song it the message leaves a gross taste in my mouth but what doesn't leave a gross taste in my mouth is not driving into a building. Also, the violin solo at the end fucking brules. Yes, it's very good. It's a very, very good violin solo. It does make it not as fun to sing it at karaoke.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I'm sorry I went off on the lyrics of it. I was just surprised when I finally read the lyrics of it, what I had been enjoying for so long. But this song reminds me of 1995 because and that was a good year for me because a goofy movie also came out that year and so i'm so grateful for it also one last thing the song ants marching it appeared on a live album that came out before under the table and dreaming so the song had been on an album before that album was called remember two things the cover of that album was a magic eye picture
Starting point is 00:34:05 of a hand giving you the peace sign. Oh my God. That is not the most fucking 90s shit ever. I do not know what it is. Gosh. That's a time capsule right there. That is a time capsule. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:34:20 We got to get it up into space. Do you ever have those magic eye books? I did. I had like a book. I don't think I could ever do any of them because of my blind spot. Even when you were little, little? Yeah, I guess I've always had this,
Starting point is 00:34:31 you know, I've always had trouble diagnosing of when this blind spot showed up, but I've never been able to do a magic eye painting, so maybe it's really just been from birth. And I just said magic eye painting, and that's an interesting concept, isn't it? Oh, let's go to the Louvre and take in
Starting point is 00:34:45 the the magic eye exhibit like hey uh monet this one sucks and he's like no no no get up on it and make your eyes all weird it's a dolphin it's a oh shit it's a hand giving the peace sign yeah it is griffin you want to see this one i I can't. No. Can you describe it to me, Claude Monet? What's your second thing? Okay, my second thing is going to require you to get on your computer, potentially. Here we go. Are you familiar with the Twitter account FacesPics? No.
Starting point is 00:35:19 F-A-C-E-S-P-I-C-S. Okay, yeah, I'm here. It is wonderful. So, should I describe what I'm seeing here? Sure. What we're looking at here is, I'll just go line for line. This is a house, and it looks like it had some blinds on it, but the blinds have been broken off in a way that makes it look like a big scary face. This is a church,
Starting point is 00:35:50 but the windows are cut out in a way where it looks like the church is screaming. So that's fun. Here's a big rock that looks like a dachshund. So that I enjoy. And here is a pineapple that looks like my dad. So I love this. Yeah, I mean, what's not to love?
Starting point is 00:36:18 I think, I mean, as Griffin knows, there are a lot of toxic things to find on Twitter. Sure. This is a wonderful account. Yeah. With just a delightful message, which is there are faces in a lot of things. Just everywhere. Are you bringing this specific Twitter account or the phenomenon of sometimes faces show up in things?
Starting point is 00:36:38 Both. Okay. So the name for the uncanny ability to see faces everywhere is pareidolia which is roughly from the greek uh wrong shape okay uh this is in a mental floss article uh from may 1st so today oh we're recording it. Whoa, what the fuck? So human brains are attuned to perceiving faces. There's an entire region of the brain called the fusiform gyrus that is dedicated to it. Face lobe, we'll call it that.
Starting point is 00:37:22 These studies have shown that shortly after birth, babies display more interest in cartoon faces with properly placed features than in similar images where the features are scrambled. Huh. The, quote, face neurons in people with healthy brains are so overactive that they scream face in many situations where there are no actual faces to be found. Huh. the face detection skills combined with our brain's compulsion to extract meaning from the sensory chaos that surrounds us is why we see faces where there aren't any
Starting point is 00:37:51 that is cool and spooky as shit it is pretty spooky I don't like my brain doing I mean my brain's always doing shit that I didn't know I gave it permission to do that's sort of part of the gig I guess I. I don't like that. It's like, where's the face? Where's the face? Where's the face? Where's the face? Got to find a face. It's like, dude, I'm just trying to eat my Wendy's.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Can you calm down? There's a face in the front. There's not. I just want to eat my Wendy's. Can you please chill out for a second? Well, and that's the thing. The Mental Floss article talks a lot about people finding faces in their toast. Jesus, they do him a lot. There is actually some of this article is dedicated to whether or not people with religious tendencies are more likely to see this. Oh, 100%. Yes. Was that where they landed on this one? Well, I didn't examine that.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Okay. So the pareidolia can be exacerbated in cases of fatigue and in some neurological diseases. On the flip side, when the fusiform gyrus is damaged due to a stroke or trauma, our ability to recognize faces is impaired. This rare condition is known as prosopagnosia or face blindness. In extreme cases, these patients become unable to identify their own faces in the mirror. Fuck. I know about this from a Japanese video game. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:39:11 I do. Wow. Thanks, Zero Escape series. What kind of game is this? Oh, I'm so glad you asked. It's kind of a violent sort of visual novel about people who get trapped in a deadly game. Anyway. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:24 That's neither here nor there. So I have seen a lot of faces in the tops of trees. Like if you're driving on the highway, look at the tree line. A lot of clouds, obviously. Yeah. Trees. It's funny that you brought this. I've seen a lot of faces.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And I'm rocked and all Cause I'm a cowboy And I steal horse I ride If you wake up our child singing that song Oh it's gonna be fucking worth it He would be so lucky to wake up to that beautiful version Of I'm a cowboy baby By Jon Bon Jovi
Starting point is 00:40:02 Not the song I also have to always remember if it's Bon Jon Jovi or Jon Bon Jovi, not the song. I also have to always remember if it's Bon Jon Jovi or Jon Bon Jovi. But Bon Jon Jovi would be crazy, wouldn't it? Don't leave me. If you left me, I would die. Yeah, but anyway, all going back to this, this Twitter account is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I discovered it today, which led me on this whole exploration of the ability to see faces and things. I want to try to describe this, what I'm looking at now. It's a mixer, right? And so it has the two holes where the whisks go into, right? It's like an electric whisk mixer, but it's a stand mixer, right? And so the part where the whisks go into is bent backwards a little bit so you have some clearance over the bowl to plug the whisks in. But there's no whisks in it.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So it kind of just looks like a long tubular red man with these hollow dead eyes looking sadly into his bowl where his whisks have fallen. It's very good. So again, just for those of you that are interested, it's F-A-C-E-S-P-I-C-S. Faces. It's been around since like 2013, 2014. And that's a good username for y'all to have snagged. You want some submissions? Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Here's one from Juliana who says, hello, I just wanted to let you, oh, this is less of a submission, more of an update. Hello, I just wanted to let you know that typing is still in school curriculums, at least throughout the Midwest. What we use in my local middle schools is learn to type three. Oh, I have a question, but we'll come back to it. Our local high schools all have key warding classes. My friends and I sometimes have typing competitions on type racer. I've never heard of the Mavis Beacon was real. And more than the people that thought she was real had never heard of her.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Like 45% of my respondents. The majority said who is Mavis Beacon. And that bummed me out in a major major way learn to type three have we really been changing typing that we've needed three editions of this well maybe the the text you're typing about now is more like modern yeah like you know like instead of like i insert my floppy disk, it's like I jam my flopper into the drive. Here's one from Megan who says one of the most wonderful things I can think of is pre peeled garlic in the big container things. The bodega next door to me sells a big thing of garlic for maybe five dollars and it lasts me a short lifetime. As somebody who grew up in an Italian-American household, I would say I use about five times the amount of garlic
Starting point is 00:42:48 in any given recipe that it tells me I should use and it has never done me wrong. That's so nice. Griffin and I are big fans of... Love this vegetable nut herb. Herb, nut, vegetable. What is that? I don't actually...
Starting point is 00:43:04 Is it a herb? Or is it a nut? I assume it's an herb. Might be a vegetable. It grows underground like a potato. I know. It's a nightshade. It's poison.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I always put about twice as much garlic as any recipe calls for. Well, and I was going to say, too, anytime a grocery store will offer you something that has already been peeled or chopped, I'm a big fan. I want to feel it. I want to pick it up off the thing and smell it. You want to slice your own watermelon? Nobody wants to do that. No, I want to pick up that melon and sniff it deep. Here's one from Michaela who says, I am a teacher and something I find wonderful is the feeling of warm paper fresh off the copier. Sometimes I enjoy placing my cheek against the warm paper and just basking in all of the warm paper glory. Heck yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:50 My mom was the secretary for the church that we grew up attending, and I would go. They had two copiers, one in, like, the front room and one in, like, the back closet. And I would just go, and I remember, like, scanning my face, not to have funny pictures of my face, but just because it felt so good to get blasted by what was probably like radon. Huh? I did this a lot. A lot? Is that not good? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Probably not good for your eyes. Oh, that's where it started. I could see magic eye paintings. Why did I say paintings again? This has been wonderful. Thank you all so much for listening. Thank you to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song, Money Won't Pay. You can find a link to that in the episode description.
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