You're Dead to Me - Introducing History's Youngest Heroes

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

Nicola Coughlan shines a light on extraordinary young people from across history. Join her for 12 stories of rebellion, risk and the radical power of youth....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. Hi, it's Nicola Coughlin. I'm dropping into this feed to tell you about History's Youngest Heroes, a new podcast for BBC Radio 4. In this series, you'll hear stories about rebellion, risk and the radical power of youth. Over the next 10 minutes, you'll hear a preview from episode one. You'll hear a preview from episode one. The South African black nationalist leader, Mr Nelson Mandela, is to be freed from prison tomorrow. The announcement was made by President F.W. de Klerk at a news conference in Cape Town three hours ago. Well, I'm a South African. I was 19 years old on the day that he was released. Professor Johnny Steinberg teaches African studies at Yale University.
Starting point is 00:00:50 He remembers that day in February 1990 when Nelson Mandela walked free from prison. A day after he was released, he came home to Soweto, which had been where he lived 27 years earlier. And I was one of hundreds of thousands of people on the streets of Soweto there to get a glimpse of him, to celebrate perhaps the most extraordinary day in my country's history. So he has been with me as he's been with every South African ever since. Always had a place in our hearts, sometimes in complicated ways. We may remember Mandela as a dignified elderly man who spent 27 years imprisoned by the apartheid
Starting point is 00:01:29 regime in South Africa. After he was released, he negotiated an end to racial segregation in his country and became its first black president. But Mandela's political career began decades before, when he was a young student. In the summer of 1952, Brigalia Bam was 19 years old. Like all black people in South Africa, she lived under the restrictions of apartheid. And I remember the evening prayer as I was preparing to go to school, a boarding school, my father says, we will not see the freedom during our lifetime. But I pray to God that the generations to come and our children will see the freedom.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Four years earlier, the South African National Party brought in the apartheid system. Meaning separateness, apartheid enshrined racial segregation in law. It privileged those who were defined as white and instituted political and economic discrimination against those who were defined as Indian, coloured, meaning multiracial, or black. In the early 50s, the young African National Congress activist Nelson Mandela led the defiance campaign, protesting against these laws. I was part of a group that was supporting the defiance campaign action of defiance, absolutely the word, to defy the laws of apartheid. Under apartheid, schools were segregated along racial lines.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Black students were given a much more limited syllabus than white students. We had many strikes. I was part of one of the many big strikes myself at that time. And that was the time, that was the atmosphere of the young people. Mandela's campaign focused on peaceful action. A station, train station. Instead of being on the side of the black people only, we were now going to stand also on the side of the white people.
Starting point is 00:03:48 We're going to go to cafeterias where you couldn't go to buy something in a cafeteria. No, now, we're going to do that. With the defiance campaign, Mandela inspired vast numbers of people and learned the sacrifices it took to be a freedom fighter. He described his own life as a long walk to freedom. His activism as a young man would put him on a path to being hailed as one of the greatest
Starting point is 00:04:15 heroes in world history. Later in life, Bam worked closely with Mandela. And I often say to myself, Mandela, he was the chosen one. He was not the only one, clever and bold, as Mandela would say all the time, is I'm no angel, you know, he like that. I'm not an angel. I'm just any person there. That the time had come for us as a people to have a liberator. Choli Shasha Mandela was born in 1918 in the countryside of the Eastern Cape.
Starting point is 00:04:56 When he was eight, his primary school teacher gave him an English name, Nelson. His father was a minor aristocrat in the Tembu aristocracy. It his was not a luxurious life. There was no electricity, there was no running water, he lived in a hut with no furniture. None of his older brothers or sisters had been to school or were literate. When Mandela was 12, his father died of lung disease. His mother shipped him off to a place he'd never been before, to people he'd never met before and it was to the king of the Tembu as a foster child essentially.
Starting point is 00:05:34 From now his guardian would be Jongin-Tabba Dalin-Jebo, regent of the Tembu kingdom. Mandela would live in the Great Place, a compound of traditional huts and western houses. After he moved there, he rarely saw his mother. He remembers thinking that everybody around was better than him, that he was out of place, that he didn't belong there. He wet his bed at the age of 12. It was really a terrible transition. But in a way, a really important one one because as an outsider to the aristocracy, he learned to play the aristocrat as something that you learn and will and perform. Vandela lived in the shadow of the boulder boys.
Starting point is 00:06:15 He was in a way a very innocent, very naive boy, very respectful of the adult world, not really a rebel. White settlement in South Africa began in the 17th century. The first settlers were Dutch. Later, the British arrived. It was the discovery of diamonds in 1867 and then gold in 1886, which suddenly made South Africa enormously wealthy and prosperous. The capital that built the gold mines was mainly British capital. And the great fault line
Starting point is 00:06:45 in South African politics was between English-speaking and Afrikaans. Afrikaans being the nation that grew out of the Dutch settlers. In his late teens, Mandela was sent to an all-black boarding school. The school aimed to turn out what Mandela himself described as black Englishmen through the enforcement of Victorian values. Students were put on a diet of bread, maize starch and water. Modela credited this with developing his self-discipline and with teaching him to eat whatever was put in front of him. Two years later he enrolled at Fort Hare, a small prestigious university for Black Africans.
Starting point is 00:07:22 He arrived full of hope, a strikingly handsome 21-year-old wearing a wristwatch and a fresh pinstriped suit. What he was going to become was a court interpreter. And that may sound quite humble to us, but in that world it was very high. To be a court interpreter was to be fluent both in English and in Abkhosa, and to be the interface between white power and
Starting point is 00:07:45 black people. It was a very elevated role. To be a young black man and to turn up at university at all put you in the very, very top echelons of the black elite. By his own recollections, he wasn't particularly political there. You know, the Second World War began while he was at Fort Hare, and he was very much on the British side. And when one of his fellow students said, well, I hope the British lose the war, because if they lose the war, they may also lose their empire. He was absolutely shocked to his core.
Starting point is 00:08:16 He didn't believe that such a thought was possible. During his second year at Fort Hare, a student protest broke out over the quality of the food and the treatment of a canteen worker. And he happened to be elected to the student's representative council. And the council had to decide whether to resign in protest over the food. And the rest of the council all capitulated. Mandela disagreed with the council. He backed the protesters. For that, he was suspended.
Starting point is 00:08:45 He was young, he didn't really know what he was getting into. And suddenly he'd been expelled from this wonderful elite institution. He was confused, he wasn't quite sure what to do next. And in fact, he almost certainly would have simply gone back to university the next year and apologized and would have been readmitted if something else hadn't happened. Mandela arrived back home to find his guardian, Jongin Tabba, furious with him. But he'd also arranged a marriage for Mandela and for his own son, who was a close friend and cousin of Mandela's. Neither Mandela nor Jongin Tabba's son, Justice, wanted this.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Together they hatched a plan to run away. They secretly sold several head of Mandela's Guardian's cattle and used that money to flee and to go to Johannesburg. This wasn't easy. Black men had to carry passes. And a journey like this required authorization from the district chief magistrate. Mandela asked the magistrate to sign his pass. And the magistrate got on the phone to the king and the king absolutely lost his temper and said these boys are trying to escape from me, they've stolen my cattle, you must immediately arrest them. And when the magistrate put down the phone, Mandela, who'd I think done one or two law classes, said well hold on, you can't arrest us because the king has lost his temper, we haven't
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