You're Dead to Me - Marie Curie

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

Join historian Greg Jenner for a fast-paced, funny and fascinating journey through the life of Marie Curie; scientific legend, double Nobel Prize winner, war hero, and all-round icon.This episode of Dead Funny History is packed with jokes, sketches and sound effects that bring Marie’s story to life for families and Key Stage 2 learners. From her rebellious education at the Flying University to her groundbreaking discoveries in radiation, Marie’s life was anything but ordinary.Learn how she defied the odds to study science in Paris, fell in love with fellow scientist Pierre Curie, and discovered two brand new elements: Polonium and Radium. Discover how she coined the term “radioactive,” worked in a leaky shed, and became the first woman to win a Nobel Prize… then won another one.But it wasn’t all lab coats and accolades. Marie faced sexism, heartbreak, and serious health risks from her research. After Pierre’s tragic death, she carried on their work, founded the Radium Institute, and developed mobile X-ray units, Petite Curies, to help soldiers in World War One. Her legacy lives on in cancer treatment, scientific innovation, and the radioactive glow of her still-dangerous notebook.Expect musical parodies, sketch comedy, and a quiz to test what you’ve learned. It’s history with heart, humour and high production value. Perfect for curious kids, families, and fans of You’re Dead To Me.Written by Gabby Hutchinson Crouch, Athena Kugblenu and Dr Emma Nagouse Host: Greg Jenner Performers: Mali Ann Rees and John-Luke Roberts Producer: Dr Emma Nagouse Associate Producer: Gabby Hutchinson Crouch Audio Producer: Emma Weatherill Script Consultant: Professor Iwan Morus Production Coordinator: Liz Tuohy Production Manager: Jo Kyle Sound Designer: Peregrine AndrewsA BBC Studios Production

Hello and welcome to Dead Funny History. I'm Greg Jenner. I'm a historian and I want to tell you about someone cool. Today we are talking about a woman who was as rock and roll as she was clever. Marie Curie discovered brand new elements, won awards and used physics and chemistry to completely change the way we understand science. Marie was born Marie Sklodowska in 1867 in Warsaw. Poland, which at that point was part of the Russian Empire. Marie was the youngest of five kids, Zofia, Josef, Bronislava, known as Bronia, and Helena. Both of her parents, Bronislava and Vladislav, were teachers and cared passionately about their education. But sadly, both her mum and one of her sisters died of TB when Marie was young. When she was 10, Marie went to school and did

really well. She ended up top of her class. But when they got older, Marie and her sister Bronya weren't able to go to university because they were women. What? I know. Both Marie and Bronya attended an illegal underground school called the Flying University. Not that type of flying. It was also sometimes called the Floating University. It wasn't on a boat either. It meant that they had to keep moving locations to escape detection by the authorities. Pst, hey, hey, you're looking for some education? What do you want? I got physics, chemistry, biology, sociology, in fact, I got all theologies.

Some young people rebel by getting, you know, bits of their body pierced or dyeing their hair. Marie rebelled by studying chemistry. I'm staying in and reading one more chapter of my chemistry. textbook and you can't stop me. And I've eaten all my vegetables, so there. Marie had big dreams of studying at the Sorbonne University in Paris in France, but their family couldn't afford it. So Bronya and Marie struck a deal. Marie got a job to fund Bronya's education and then Bronya would return the favour. Now that goes way above and beyond the usual sisterly sharing, much better than

letting her use your Game Pass subscription. In 1894, a 24-year-old Marie finally got her chance to go to the Sorbonne. In Paris, the city of romance. Excuse you, I'm here for science, not love. Although Marie could only afford to live in a very cold attic room, she was finally living her dream, and she wrote in her diary, It was like a new world open to me. The world of science.

which I was at last permitted to know in all liberty. And Marie did brilliantly, completing master's degrees in maths and physics with flying colours in just three years. But that wasn't all Paris had in store for Marie. While she was looking for a lab to do her science work in, she met another scientist called Pierre Curie. Like Marie, Pierre was passionate about science and education. Let's just say that they are.

had very good chemistry. Babe, you are as interactive as an electoral magnet. Let's bond together like a fluorine compound. I'm going to call you my adrojan because you're my number one. They fell in love. Maybe I am in Paris for love after all. Thanks, city of romance. You are welcome!

Marie was proud to be Polish and wanted to return home to study at Krakow University, but they still wouldn't give her a place because she was a woman. I know, I know. So Marie decided to stay in Paris and Marie and Pierre were married in 1895. A white wedding, romantic! Not quite. Not only was it a non-religious. But Marie thought it was silly to spend all that money on a white dress she'd never wear again.

So instead, she wore a dark blue dress, which she famously used as her lab uniform. A lab dress wedding, practical and romantic. The curies became interested in the work of French scientist Henri Beccarele, who was doing fascinating experiments with an element called uranium. And he had discovered that it gave off its own strange energy called radiation. Marie's own research into uranium fundamentally changed people's thoughts about science. Previously, the atom was thought to be the smallest possible thing. Couldn't possibly divide it into anything smaller, but Marie disproved that.

And as if that wasn't enough, Marie and Pierre also discovered two brand-new elements. You cannot underestimate the significance of discovering not one but two new elements. It was like that moment when Justin Bieber was discovered on YouTube, combined with the discovery that peanut butter and jam go really well together. Marie and Pierre called these new elements... Polonium, after my beloved Poland. And... Radium, because it's radioactive.

And while I'm at it, I will invent the term radioactive. This was huge. And since they didn't get much support from the university, Marie and Pierre Curie did most of that work in a leaky shed. Not ideal. Oh, I walked my handsome leg into a bucket. In 1903, Marie received her doctorate, becoming the first woman in France to get one. Her research was declared to have done more for science than any previous thesis, and she was rewarded by not being nominated for the Nobel Prize alongside her husband Pierre

and Henri Beccarell for their work on radiation. Oh, for goodness sake. But a Swedish mathematician named Magnus Yostar Mitag Lefler found out about it and he said... That is as unfair as my name is long. He and Pierre insisted that Marie's name be included too. More effective allyship than posting a hashtag. Hashtag you're welcome.

Marie Curie was the first woman to win a Nobel Prize and the award changed the lives of the Curie. Things were looking up, but then things were looking down. In 1906, Pierre tragically died after falling under a horse-drawn cart, leaving behind a devastated Marie and their two daughters, Ev and Irene. Marie was heartbroken, but went back to work to become the first woman physics professor at the Sorbonne University. She wrote in her diary,

Crossed by the blow, I did not feel able to face the future. I could not forget, however, what my husband used to sometimes to say, that even deprived of him, I ought to continue my work. Marie continued to do groundbreaking science and rack up loads of impressive accolades. By 1909, she had finally got her own lab in Paris. No more leaky sheds. Goodbye, mock buckets. Hello, professional respect of my peers.

Yeah, not quite. In 1911, the French Academy of Sciences still voted not to give her a membership. Poor crying out loud. But remember, Al-Marie was a scientific rock star. And despite these setbacks, later in 1911, she was awarded a second Nobel Prize,

this time in chemistry. She remains the only person ever to win two Nobel Prizes in two scientific. fields. Marie may have lost Pierre, but she was determined to use her work to save lives and to keep the memory of Pierre alive too. She opened the Radium Institute in Pierre's memory. Oh, thanks, babe. It's what hot Pierre always wanted. Radium can damage living flesh, and the Curie's research, which still carries on today at their institute, completely changed how we treat diseases like cancer.

But that wasn't all. Marie's work became really important when World War I began. Now, after years of playing second fiddle to men, she could easily have just said, Oh, look who's coming crawling now to Gertley Marie from Poland. But instead, Marie used her knowledge

to develop a fleet of mobile X-ray units called Petit Curies. What? Lots of little Mary Curies, like Unpalumpas. No, although that would have been cool, though. Petit Curie do, petit do. I made a device that sees inside of you. Petit Curies were game changes for injured soldiers who could now be treated more quickly and accurately.

Marie operated the X-ray machines herself on the front line, training her daughter, Iran, to do the same. That is a very intense take-your-kid to work day. The bone is sticking out of the flesh. We'll take an X-ray to make sure no bits are in the sight. If why I, if this was a movie, I'd be too young to watch it. It's character-building like an extreme deal-ve-a-word. Marie was a war hero.

Go Marie! And go-Irein, who became a scientist, just like her mum and dad. In 1934, Iran was up for a Nobel Prize. As Celeb Kids' achievements go, it's a world away from Brooklyn Beckham's photos. Take your land's cap off Brooklyn. Sadly, Marie didn't get to see Irene get her award, as on the 4th of July, 1934... Oh, I'm feeling quite ill. In fact, I've been feeling ill since the 1920s.

Tragically, even though Radium has the power to do amazing things, it's also extremely dangerous. Throughout their lives, both Marie and Pierre, work. constantly unwell, but they didn't know that radium exposure was so bad for them. Occupational health obviously wasn't a thing in those days. Marie, to start your health and safety assessment, I'm going to switch on my Geiger counter. Okay. I'll just tick the everything is dangerously radioactive box. Still, at least your desk posture is good? Maricuree died age 66, probably from a blood disease caused by too much exposure to radium. Okay, dying now.

Don't touch my stuff. I mean, really, don't touch my stuff. It'll probably kill you. Marie dedicated so much time to studying radium. She became radioactive herself. Her body is quite literally... Toxic! Marie even had to be buried in a coffin lined with lead to keep other people safe from her.

Even her notebook is still... Toxic. It's so radioactive, it glows in the dark and won't be safe to touch for another 1,500 years. I've been to the year 3,000. Not much has changed, but we can touch Maricure's radioactive notebook. And your great, great, great-granddaughter probably has a Nobel Prize. A Nobel Prize. Maricuree's legacy is amazing. A groundbreaking scientist, an advocate for Polish liberty, for women's education, a double Nobel Prize. Prize winner, a war hero and an innovator whose discoveries have saved countless lives. And, as she didn't let her wedding dress go to waste in the attic, also an advocate for

sustainable fashion. In 1944, Marie and Pierre even had a newly discovered element named after them. Oh, thank you, baby. It's what we've always wanted. Curium sounds like a cure. It's actually incredibly radioactive and deadly. Oh, wait a rub it in, guys. And in 1995, Marie and Pierre's coffins were moved. Very carefully, because, you know, toxic. And they were placed in Paris's pantheon of heroes. Hang on, Greg.

You've already covered a woman immigrant war hero who is honoured in the Pantheon of Heroes in the Josephine Baker episode. Yeah, Marie is National Hero Pantheon Pals with Josephine Baker. Legends both. So how much do you remember? from today's speedy history lesson. Let's find out. Pencils at the ready.

Question 1. Where was Marie Curie born? Warsaw. Poland. Question 2. Name one of the two elements that Marie and Pierre Curie discovered. Radium and polonium. Question 3.

What were the mobile X-ray units that Marie and Irene used to help out in World War I? Petit, Curies. Well done. Join us next time for another snappy history lesson. Thanks for listening. Bye.

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